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Whoo! My name is Don, I'm an Alcoholic. After Fifi's visit I've forgotten what the hell I'm doing here. Don't tell my wife about that. I've been privileged to be at a number of these kind of functions and I must tell you I have never ever been treated as warmly or as well as I have this weekend. You're just a fantastic group of people so we're probably going to have a crying talk tonight. I'm all wound up.

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On the 26th of 1967, God gave me back my life as a free, clear gift and then He gave me Alcoholics Anonymous so that that gift might have some purpose and some dimension and some meaning and some joy. Because I didn't come to you all to get sober. I didn't know that's what I needed. In fact, I didn't come to you at all. You dug me out of a rat hole. I could sum up the difference in my life today very simply. There is no other place I'd rather be to not know.

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There's no nights and nights here. And there are no other people that I'd rather be with than you. And there has never been born or ever will be born anyone I'd rather be than me and it just wasn't always like that. It's been a good part of my life trying to be anywhere but where I was, and I'm still not too fond of the people I ran around with. Although some of them are in this room. Every time I look to see who died, I'm just a good man. But I

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down was, I found a creep. Just couldn't find anybody home worth visiting with. And that's

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for I ever took a drink. Now alcohol solved that for me. I was three feet tall with a big

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ward on the end of my nose and I talked funny. And I walked funny. And I thought funny. And

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I took a drink of alcohol and I was six feet tall. And it was alright for me to be you

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or me to be me and you to be you for a while. And I became willing immediately to pay whatever

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price I had to pay to get that feeling out of each day. And alcohol is the thing that

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did that for me. I made an interesting discovery of the day. One of the reasons I drank in high

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school was because it made it possible for me to dance. I was not a good dancer. And I

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discovered not too long ago in an A dance that the truth is, I'm not a good dancer. In fact,

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I don't even like to dance. I don't know where the boss is going to take us tonight. I'm

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killing time till he clicks in. I do know this. I'm here to talk to one person in this group.

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That's why God sent me here. I hope the rest of you have an enjoyable time. I'm also acutely

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aware of the fact that I'm dealing with life and death here in this room tonight. Not that

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I'm going to save any lives, but I'm not here to talk about some scott jamboree. It's

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life and death in this room. What we do here means the difference between life and death

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for people. It did for me. You found me in my third penitentiary. We'll get that out of

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the way early. I have to talk about penitentiaries not as a status, but because that's where I

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ended up. I was not a big time gangster. Don't get that idea. I remember one of my better

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burglaries. Mainly because it's the only one I can remember. I was off duty that night.

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At the time, I was also a special police officer for the city of Denver. I was off duty that

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night and drunk. I took the easier, softer way. I went to a place I knew was empty. Three

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o'clock in the morning. I put on my black watch cap and my black pea coat and got on

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my bicycle and went off to burglarize this house. And wandered around for a couple hours

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in that house and left and forgot to take anything. So I wasn't out of big time gangster. At the

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time I was living in a chicken coop I had converted because it was cool to do that. And I believe

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today that what I was looking for in that house was whatever magic it was that made it possible

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for those people to live in a house and necessary for me to live in a chicken coop. And I didn't

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find it of course. Let me tell you about my last week. And then we'll talk about what

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I came here to share with you. The last week of my life, Christmas week of 1967, that was

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the week that Don got a chance to see Don for exactly who he was. The images were gone. The

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excuses were gone. All the scripts were written and trashed. I was on federal parole

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for an indiscretion I'd committed in 1966. And my two little boys whose mother had left

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years before I raised two little boys in the midst of my sickness. For some ungodly reason

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they were back in my care again. And we lived in a $40 a month basement apartment beneath

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a lady who had cats. It was my first understanding of obsession. She had cats. And that's the week

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that as I looked around I could see that her place was cleaner than mine was. And another

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piece of that false image that I carried around that wrote. The Christmas tree that we had was

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only an alcoholic would pick it out. Our ceiling was this high and the tree was this high. So it

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kind of drooped over at the top. And we had gotten that tree for a dollar that I'd found in the

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snow. And that struck me as not quite right. And under that tree I had managed to literally

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con this little place out of a pair of cowboy boots and a shirt so my boys would have at least

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one present. Fully intending to pay for them as soon as the welfare shed came. If you ever

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turned down or patronize the merchandise smart out there on these Colfax very kind of people.

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But my kids had wrapped up everything that was in the house that would wrap up in blue paper

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towels so I would have a good Christmas. And that broke another piece of me. But the killer came

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thank God Christmas day when the kids and I went down to my folks house so that they could spend

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the day with grandma and grandpa. And my dad met us at the door and he said I'm sorry. But your

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mother says I can't let you in anymore. She can't stand watching you die. For the first time in my

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life I saw what I'd been doing to my mom. And a great big honking me broke. And then dad snuck

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us in anyway. And I got to see clearly what I was doing to him. I'd been screaming out in my

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madness that nobody cares. Well he cared. He cared enough to jeopardize his own home that day.

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And snuck us in anyway. And another piece broke. And I could see clearly what my lifestyle was doing

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to my kids. You know every time I got arrested so today they hadn't done anything. My boys were on

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the road with me for a long time. I'm one of those nutso's that came out of Berkeley in the 60s.

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Screaming where there's dope there's hope burned down city hall. And when you do that you have to

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be on the move a great deal. My kids thought that hitchhacking around the United States was

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a normal way of life. Until some damn fool told my older boy about a thing called school and he

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wanted to go. So we stopped. And the train hit me. I ended up in a federal penitentiary. And I saw

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what that had done to my kids. My dreams were dead. We all have fine dreams when we start and mine

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were dead. They were never going to happen. And the dreams that my people had for me were dead.

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They were never going to happen. And the dreams of my little boys had were dead. And once I got

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past the self pity I made the discovery that there was no good reason for me to stay. Everybody

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that I could think of would be better off if I weren't here. And that was the truth. So I took a

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massive overdose of drugs and drank everything and finally down died. And was really distressed

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the next morning when I woke up. The police were at the door. I had in that last week set myself up

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to be arrested. I was really tired and I needed to rest. And I had learned from experience that

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county jail is a magnificent place for drunks to rest. Now there are some people in this room

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unfortunately tonight who aren't through drinking. So let me tell you how you survive county jail

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because you'll get there. It's real easy. I lied to you for 10 minutes. You lied to me for 10

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minutes and we both go take a nap. And that's it. Just remember you've got to listen to the other

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guys' lies and believe them. Well they didn't come to me for that little six months in the county

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jail. They had nine charges. The first of which called for three years to life in the penitentiary.

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And a problem promised from the Denver district attorney that if I beat him on that one

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that he was going to bring the rest of them one at a time. But I was through and I still

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had the question in my mind, hey how's wrong with me? Nobody knew. Well I laid in the Denver

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county jail for five months waiting for a trial and doing what you're doing in the county jail

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which is kind of just hanging around lying to each other. And I can still remember that change had

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taken place. Because what we talked about what we were going to do when we got out. That's what

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you talk about. And it's always the same thing. We're going to get a kegabear and a little grass

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and go into the mountains and we've earned this one. And I was still saying that but I can still

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remember that isn't what I wanted anymore. I didn't want to do that anymore and I did not know that

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it was possible for me to not do that. And I've got to tell you about the power of God as I understand

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him because God entered into my life before I knew his name. I met the basic requirement for recovery

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and alcoholics anonymous in my own sick way. I had surrendered. I had said within myself

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I would rather die than live one more day this way. And that's the beginnings. I can't do it anymore.

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I don't even want to try. I thought I was tired. Well the Denver District Attorney and the Federal

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Authorities who owned a piece of me got together and decided that I was really sick. That's what

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they told me. And that if I would plead guilty to a reduced charge they'd give me back to the

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federal people and they could take me to Fort Worth Texas to a federal hospital down there and

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fix me. Now I'd been healing for five months and an alcoholic ego can go from death to reasonably

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good health in about a half hour. And my answer to them was based on two factors and there's always

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at least two of me at work in here. At least two. I had occasion to haul back to work with a

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genuine schizophrenic and the poor guy was an amateur. These two guys got together and one side

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of me was wanting to go anywhere anybody said and do anything anybody said as long as they didn't

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ever have to be me ever again. And the other side of me knew that if you put me in a hospital

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with doctors and books I'll be on the street in six months. Because God bless them their job

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is to tell me what's wrong with me and about how long it's going to take to fix that.

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And then he would tell me all of the symptoms I needed to present to convince everybody I was

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getting well. And I've done that since I was a little bitty kid. I'm awfully good at that game.

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I'd have been out. Well I said yes. My mother raised a drunk and not a dummy. Six months

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in a federal hospital beats the hell out of life in the penitentiary. And they kept their bargain.

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They reduced my charge, gave me back to the feds and five days later I was in the Colorado

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state penitentiary saying things like wait a minute you can't do this to me. I didn't sign

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up for this summer camp. And he just by the grace of a very loving God that that happened to me.

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I'd be dead today if I'd have gone to that federal hospital because we'd have treated

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the wrong problem. In our third week in the fish tank I'm laying there waiting for somebody

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to tell me what the hell to do. You know when you think about surrender that's what it's about.

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It's real simple. I look at it in terms of an army. When an army surrenders it means you've met

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a force over which you have no more power so you lay down all your fighting tools and sit by

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the side of the road until somebody comes along and tells you where to go. And I'd lay down

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all my fighting tools and I was laying around here waiting for somebody to tell me what to do.

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And it's gone it hollered out all you new guys come downstairs and listen. And I didn't know any

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better so I listened. They had three guys with numbers on their chests. And the first guy said my

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name's Doc and I'm an alcoholic and that means that I'm powerless over alcohol and drugs and

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guards and all of the other circumstances of my life and my life's become unmanageable. And if any

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you smart bastards think you can still manage your lives look at the reward the state just gave you

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for the nifty job you've been doing. And I think the great miracle of my life is that I heard

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Doc. I don't remember a whole lot else about what they said that day except they did a remarkable

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thing. They invited all of us the day that we got out of fish tank and in the main population

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to come to their 12 step study school. They said you guys aren't doing too good.

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Your best thinking brought you to the penitentiary. That's not doing too good. And they told us that

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if we were alcoholic we didn't ever have to drink again ever. And we didn't have to hurt like we'd

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been hurting ever again that they had a way that they could show us that would change our lives.

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I came here to be changed. So and I hadn't been invited anywhere in a long time anyway.

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So I went to their silly school. Now that meant we had to give up our yard privileges

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and our movie. And that's all we had. They held those at the same time as a 12 step study school

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and a little sacrifice involved here. So my friend Jim and I we went to their school

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and I discovered sponsorship. They sat us down and said now you new guys for the next five weeks

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you have nothing to say. If you knew anything at all you wouldn't be here. The hell is that kind of

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say and I will be forever grateful because they did the thing for me that needed to be done.

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Since I was little I've been asking what's wrong with me because I don't fit.

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I think funny. I feel funny. I make mistakes. I can't get what I'm supposed to be on time.

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What's wrong with me? Why when I have all these high ideals do I keep ending up in a gutter?

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And you told me exactly why and they told it in a way that I could understand it.

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I was in my first federal penitentiary when I was 19 because when I drank I can't find my way home.

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And there's a federal law against getting lost when you're in the Navy. I had joined the Navy to

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save America from the communist menace and come home a hero. Oh I needed to be a hero when I was 17

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awfully bad. And they kept giving me a 24 hour liberty expecting me to come back.

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And I went ashore fully expecting to come back because I loved the Navy. I really did.

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I got a 17 wars exciting. Looks pretty dumb from where I'm at today but it was exciting then.

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And I was drinking with the big guys. And I was on a ship when I was a radarman and it was exciting.

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And there are very few experiences in my life today that match standing on the bridge of a ship

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at night and watching the sea turn over and listening to the planet breathe. And I loved it.

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But I'd go ashore and I couldn't get back on time. I start to drink. That's what you did.

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And I'd be three minutes or ten minutes or an hour and a half or a day or two.

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One time was 23 days and they were really mad. See when I went home to Long Beach they moved home

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to Korea. And I was in trouble. You told me why that happened to me. That happened to me because I

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have an allergy. I'm allergic to alcohol. And the symptom of my allergy if I were allergic to tomatoes

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and I ate tomatoes I'd break out with a rash and itch. The demonstration of my allergy is that

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when I put alcohol in my body I'd break out with a scream and meet me hitch for more alcohol.

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And I do not have any choice in the matter. Once I take the first drink I've lost the power of choice.

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My body changes and my mind changes and I become consumed with an aid for another drink.

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And that must go on until whatever causes that doesn't cause it anymore.

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And I will always love you. Everybody was always able to tell me why does that happen.

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I come to you and you say it happens and we don't have the slightest idea why. We just know it happens.

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On day 22 I was in Pershing Square in Los Angeles.

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Mooching drinks and quarters and meals and whatever I had to do. I could not go home.

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On day 23 the madness was not there. And I turned myself into the place like any other rational

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human being and went back to face the consequences of my act. And that's why that happened.

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And I came to understand that it only happens to alcoholics. It doesn't happen to anybody else.

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And it happens to alcoholics every single time they take a drink. And they let me get just

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comfortable enough with that to be a little comfortable and then they hit me with a zinger.

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They said it's academic. If you never take a drink it'll never happen again.

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The main problem with me centers in my mind. I've got a mind that for whatever reason and you don't

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know that either can't seem to remember that that's what's going to happen next time.

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There's a peace missing. My neighbor has that peace. My neighbor owns a barn and didn't drink.

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And I was curious about that and got talking with him one day. Seems he did once. He drank

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and puked and quit. He didn't like what happened to him so he didn't do it anymore.

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He's able to learn from his experience. When it comes to alcohol I'm not.

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I could give you a two hour list of the reasons I drank and every one of them would be true.

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I drank to feel good. I drank to stop feeling bad. I drank to be taller, shorter.

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I drank to be noticed. I drank to be invisible. But the horror of my life as an alcoholic is that

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most of the time I drank for no damn good reason at all. I'm obsessed with alcohol. I learned later

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I'm obsessed with me. Somewhere along the way I got the silly idea that I'm supposed to feel good

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all the time. I spent my whole life trying to do that. Well I'll tell you something. I'm 52 years

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old now. We're not really the state made me 17 when they locked me up so I'm younger than that.

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But on my best day when I'm feeling my best my feet still hurt. So I'm never going to feel good

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all the time. Alcohol helped me to feel good to stop from feeling bad. It changed me and that's why

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I used it. It changed me. I've got a peace missing. I am convinced in my heart to this day.

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Almost 19 years sober that there will still come a day when all of the information stored in my head

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won't show up and keep me from taking a drink. So I'm powerless. I've got a body that will go mad

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if I give it alcohol and a mind that says let's have a drink. That's as powerless as I'm going to

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get. I've been afraid of my mind for a long time. In fact I went to my sponsor one time and said Bruce

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I'm terrified of this mind of mine. He says you have good reason to be. We don't trust a doubt by

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itself anymore. I had an occasion several years ago that brought that home to me. I've believed

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it since you told me. But God gives me experiences that make sure that it's nailed down tight. I was

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working in an agency that got jobs for ex-cons and I was wearing a coat and tie. We were having

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lunch at Leos in Denver with some businessman. Really impressive stuff for a guy like me.

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One of the fellows had discovered a new liqueur. Now I never heard of liqueur.

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It's green stuff and they put it into this funny looking little glass and there isn't enough in

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there to do anybody any good. But he was letting everybody taste it because it was new and all of

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my defenses came up. I'm not going to taste that and I know that. Everything that I learned here was

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there. When it came my turn I thought in courtesy I'd at least sniff it and as I was sniffing it

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it burst into my head that the difference between life and death for me would be the twitch of a

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muscle. And it was that easy and then I watched God move my hand right on off and I don't sniff

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anymore. I'm fully aware that my life is in that delicate balance and I can't learn enough about

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alcoholics and monomers. I can't learn enough about alcoholism or life to keep that from happening.

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I'm powerless over that. So I don't trust me to do it. I didn't turn my life over to the care

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of God because it was a neat thing to do. There wasn't anything else to do. Then we had to deal with

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insanity. And this was a problem for me because at the time I was certified by the state of Colorado

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as a sociopath type two. And the federal government had me certified as a psychopath.

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And the reason I was in that penitentiary was because they are both untreatable in the hospital

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and want me. They're untreatable because one of those kinds of people doesn't know the difference

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between right and wrong. The other one knows and just doesn't give a damn. And I was both. And then

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you come along and with the good news that I now have a third terminal untreatable disease.

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I was terrified because in 18 months they were going to let me out. I wasn't the least bit afraid

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of being in there. I knew how to live in there. They were going to let me out. And I knew from past

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experience there was nothing in that penitentiary that was going to change me. Working in the

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dishroom certainly wouldn't do that. Well, you took my concerns away from me. My sponsor said,

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Don, we don't think you're a sociopath or a psychopath. We think you're a good actor.

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I used that. I learned when I was very young, a thing that some of my Indian ancestors knew.

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If you want to keep people away, just be a little bit nuts.

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and all but the stoutest of hearts disappeared.

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They told me what's wrong with me is that I suffer from alcoholic insanity,

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which is defined a couple of ways in our big book. The idea that somehow, someday,

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I'm going to beat the game. It's going to be different next time.

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But the working definition for me came in the story of the young car salesman named Jim,

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who a couple of angry one morning because he was now working for the company he used to own.

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He'd been drunk a number of times and 12 step was now in the program, but he'd failed in

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largest spiritual life. He just kind of showed up at meetings.

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And he had a few words with his boss and went off down the road and he stopped at a bar to have

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lunch and to find a customer for a car. He'd done this many times over. And after lunch,

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somebody inside there said, Jim, on a full stomach, we can have a drink of whiskey if we pour it in

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our milk. And that sounded like a good idea to him, so he did it. And it was so successful.

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And he didn't go instantly crazy and tear the restaurant up that he had another.

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And that didn't do anything bad, so he had another. And he ended up back in a sanitarium.

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And the book says that whatever the precise definition may be, we call that plain insanity.

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How can such lack of proportion and the ability to think straight be anything else?

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That's what's wrong with me. I lack proportion and I lack the ability to think straight.

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I love everything about alcoholics and onums, but one thing.

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If I could, I would go to every place I've ever seen it and tear down the sign on the wall that

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says, think, think, think. Because I'm rubber-minded. My sponsor told me, Don, the truth,

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isn't even going to work for you. Because I put the truth in here and my ego catches it and

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said, oh, we can use that later. And by the time I get around to using it, it's warped.

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So they gave me the key to freedom. They said, Don, we suggest that you forget everything you

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think you know about anything, particularly spiritual matters. Because if anything that you

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thought you knew had worked, you wouldn't be here. And they said, if you ever have learned

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anything in your life, it'll still be the truth when we're all through with you.

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But for now, forget it. And by some form of God's grace, I was able to do that for a time.

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In fact, this day, if I'm willing to argue with you and fight with you,

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it's my opinion. And I know it and it's warped. I never have to fight for the truth. The truth

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just kind of stands there and is the truth. But I do love a good battle. My sponsors had some things

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I wanted. I'm a very practical person. And there were a number of things they had. First of all,

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Bruce was in that penitentiary for the rest of his natural life for a double murder he'd committed

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one morning on the streets of Denver, when he was 17 years old. He described that day. He'd

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wake him that morning knowing that nobody cared whether he lived or died. That's how I felt. And

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that's very painful. And so he took his medicine, started ranking to kill the pain and that day

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it didn't work. It aggravated the pain. And he ended up going downtown and raging killing some

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people. Now, to the best of my knowledge, I've never done that. But I have wakened knowing nobody

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cared whether he lived or died. And the medicine didn't work. And I did my own bizarre stuff.

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But Bruce was incapable of doing that act. And I knew that. I'm not blind. He couldn't kill people

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anymore. And I asked him about it. And he said, yes, I've been changed. That's why I'm here. I

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can't be changed. My sponsor, Phil, was the most gentle human being I've ever met to this day.

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Now, Phil was in that penitentiary because when he was 17 years old and lived on Guam,

00:30:35

he did what Phil did. And they said, either leave or we're going to lock you up. And several years

00:30:40

later in Colorado, the state of Colorado said, you either go back to Guam or we're going to lock

00:30:44

you up and Guam wouldn't have him. He had been there seven years sober. And I was his first

00:30:51

person he'd ever sponsored. Now, what Phil did when Phil got drunk was throw things out of

00:30:56

windows. And quite often it was people. And this last time it was three stories up.

00:31:04

Now, Phil and his quiet way looked at me and he said, Don, you will stay sober.

00:31:14

And I lived on the fourth tier up. He said, I'm not losing my first one. Phil taught me to touch

00:31:29

in an environment where physically touching is very deadly. But he taught me to touch.

00:31:38

Now, I've never met a human being that loved his family anymore than Phil Gutierrez did.

00:31:42

But he would tell me, I don't do this for them. I do this for me. Because if I don't, they don't

00:31:48

have anything. And I learned how the most selfless activity in the world is to be done for me.

00:31:58

Now, that's just contradictory enough that my sick mind can grasp that.

00:32:03

Well, Bruce had something else I wanted to. They let Bruce in and out of his cell anytime he

00:32:08

wanted. And the reason I knew that is because when I was locked up, he used to wander by and stop

00:32:13

and talk to me. And I've been locked up enough to know that that's the job you want to get,

00:32:18

the one who lets you in and out whenever you want. It wasn't until later I found out he did that.

00:32:27

Bruce was 12 step in the guys who couldn't get out. In our prison, they knew that over 75% of

00:32:34

the people in there were there as a direct result of alcohol. And they believed in alcoholics

00:32:38

anonymous. Because people from the outside for many years had been coming in and were respectable

00:32:46

and got results. And they trusted alcoholics anonymous. Now, I decided I wanted what they had.

00:32:57

So they told me God had done it and I figured, all right, what the hell?

00:33:04

If that's who you say it is, I really didn't care. I knew that I could have an entire psychic

00:33:09

change, you said. And I'd read enough to know that this left exciting. So I went back to my cell

00:33:14

and took my third step and had the worst experience of my entire life. I'm alcoholic. And if it goes

00:33:21

boom and shakes the room, I can handle it. All the way from federal agents breaking down

00:33:26

a house to God talking in visions. And I've had visions. What I can't handle is what happened

00:33:32

that day. I said the prayer waited for my flash of light and absolutely nothing happened.

00:33:39

And I can't deal with that. I might as well not have said it. Well, I'd learn by then that if

00:33:48

your sponsor suggests that you do something and you do it and you don't get the results you

00:33:52

think you ought to be getting, go bitch at him. I did. His response to me was dummy.

00:34:05

They gave me back my name. I'd been a number and they gave me a name, dummy. You ought to be

00:34:10

grateful you didn't have a flash of light. They nearly killed you all in life. And he was right.

00:34:14

I've had some beauties. In case anybody's thinking about visions, they will work. I had the privilege

00:34:20

of eating peyote with the Indians one time in an Easter ceremony. Very real thing. Had a real

00:34:25

vision. Saw a great huge bird flying with no head on it and understood that that was me in my life,

00:34:31

flying high going nowhere. And for four months living in the north woods of California,

00:34:39

I stayed sober and clean. And then I got back to San Francisco and lost it. So if you're considering

00:34:45

visions, they will work. They're good for four months of sobriety. But I'm here for the long haul.

00:34:53

I didn't come here for any more short term fixes. Whatever it is that we're doing here

00:34:58

must last me the rest of my life. It must. So we talked. Bruce took a couple hours out of his life.

00:35:10

Very precious time and gave them to me as he shared with me how God had come to him

00:35:16

in a gentle slow way. And the gentleness of him convinced me that that's what God was about.

00:35:23

Here were three examples in front of me of killers and stick up men and throwers out of windows

00:35:31

who were gentle men. And they said God did that for them. So I figured it must be a gentle God then.

00:35:39

And I asked him in all earnestness, Bruce, how do I make this deal real? He said, well,

00:35:45

Don God will reveal himself to you as you reveal yourself to you. And I was sent off to take an

00:35:51

inventory of myself. I didn't bother with the book. Two hours later when I'd finished it and

00:35:56

came back to fist step it. This same patient man looked at my inventory and he said, that's garbage.

00:36:04

You wrote that to impress me. Get away. Just blew my head away. I mean, I had written down some

00:36:10

of the most bizarre things I'd ever done and he's telling me that's garbage. Well, I did what any

00:36:15

good alcoholic does. I wasn't found a guy that would listen to it. And I had one of those spiritual

00:36:23

awakenings. I'd tell him one of these things I had done and he would say it wasn't that bad.

00:36:29

And it was that bad. I was not a nice person. And after a while I awakened to the fact.

00:36:37

That once again I had found somebody who would tell me what I wanted to hear so I could just

00:36:42

keep on doing what I wanted to do. And if I didn't stop that immediately I was going to die a very

00:36:48

ugly death. Now then as now death really doesn't bother me that much. I'm not afraid of it. I'm

00:36:56

not eager for the process of dying. But I've died three times that I can recall. But an ugly death

00:37:04

has meaning to me. It means that for some period of time before I die I must live a very ugly life

00:37:12

and I can't stand the thought of that. So I went back and reviewed where I was at.

00:37:23

And we talked some more about this God business. And I had one last reservation. You'd think I'd

00:37:27

have been ready. But I had me a reservation that was a humdinger. You told me there was good news.

00:37:37

God had worked for me to do and I knew that wasn't good news at all because I knew who it was.

00:37:43

If I really gave my life over the care of God I'd end up on a corner of Colfax and Broadway in Denver

00:37:48

handing out watchtower magazines and asking strangers if they'd been saved. And at that time

00:37:54

I just couldn't see me doing that. So my sponsor took some more time with me. And he said the magic

00:38:05

words. If you're new and your sponsor uses these words you're in trouble. He said let's talk about

00:38:13

that. Which meant Don listens. Bruce talks. He said Don do you suppose that that fellow that's

00:38:25

doing that, Don on Colfax and Broadway today had breakfast where he wanted to? And I said yeah

00:38:30

I said well you didn't. He said do you suppose that guy that's handing out watchtower magazines

00:38:39

picked out the clothes he's wearing to do that in? And I said probably he says you didn't.

00:38:47

Do you suppose when he's all through asking these perfect strangers if they've been saved

00:38:52

that he gets to go home? And I knew who it was next because I didn't. And through this gentle process

00:39:00

of beating my ego out again he brought me to the place where I stand before you tonight. And that's

00:39:06

very simple. My program is based on the simple fact that anything at all that God has in mind for

00:39:12

me is better than anything at all that I may have in mind for me. Period. And with that I went back

00:39:20

to work. And I got a big book out and started doing what it said. Damn this process I've ever

00:39:26

seen. I found out that the purpose of the inventory was not for me to find out who I was.

00:39:33

I knew who I was and killed him. It was to help me find out who I was and

00:39:38

that I was going to find out all the things that stood between me and God

00:39:44

and between me and you. And all I had to do to start that process was make a list of the people I was

00:39:50

mad at and God that was easy. If I knew you I didn't like you.

00:39:58

And that I was to put down the reasons that I was mad at you. And that was easy too. That's

00:40:02

what I thought about 24 hours a day. That was to put down what that was doing to my life.

00:40:10

And it was a mess. Let me tell you about one of them because it changed my life. In 1966 federal

00:40:17

agents broke down my house. That's how they come. Unannounced and violently. One through the front door

00:40:24

one through the back door and one through the side window. Knocked me to the ground,

00:40:27

handcuffed me and were just mildly abusing me. They're not so tough. My little four-year-old

00:40:35

let out a shriek and his big cop sworn he's gone around to his head and almost shot him just

00:40:39

as a reflex action and I hated him. And I nursed that hate all through that federal penitentiary

00:40:45

and after I got out. Well he was on my list. I guarantee you I was mad at him. I had 22 reasons

00:40:51

I was mad at him. One lousy arrest. 22 reason. He'd made a criminal out of me to start with.

00:41:00

You're not a criminal to your cop. Et cetera, et cetera. My self-esteem was shot. My sex life was gone.

00:41:10

My personal relations, et cetera, et cetera. And I tried very hard to take the attitude

00:41:15

our big book suggests to get rid of this. That this person like myself was perhaps

00:41:19

spiritually sick and I agreed with that and I still hated him. Then I made a big mistake. I

00:41:27

read the directions out of the big book and didn't think. I just did what it said.

00:41:33

It said I was to set aside your arms he may have done and resolutely looked from my own mistakes

00:41:39

and it burst on me again. I'd invited this clown into my house. I'd been smuggling marijuana out of

00:41:45

Mexico in rather large amounts and not paying the tax on it and that made me fair a game for him

00:41:55

and anybody like him. I was his business and I recognized that everything that happened that

00:42:01

day was my fault including my son almost getting killed. Now I'm very careful before I take new

00:42:07

people into inventory. There's no way I could have lived with that knowledge had it not already been

00:42:12

that I had a sense of the presence of God and that I had grasped the great promise of

00:42:18

Alcoholics Anonymous and that was that whatever caused me to do that would be removed and I didn't

00:42:24

ever have to do that again. I couldn't have lived with it if I didn't know I don't have to do that

00:42:31

again and I came to that belief because of you. I believed God could do that because he had done

00:42:38

it for you but more importantly you said you would accept me as I was where I was at the very

00:42:46

beginning and I knew you were flawed and if you could do that then this God could certainly do

00:42:55

that so I had that sense of it and I just kind of went on from there. I learned about fear.

00:43:04

I thought fear lived down here in my tummy because that's where I felt it and I liked it.

00:43:12

You know, talking about lack of proportion, fears for children give me a good dose of

00:43:18

stark terror anytime really makes you feel alive and useful and quick.

00:43:29

But I learned about the kind of fear that will kill me. I've just gotten up again and I think that's

00:43:36

the worst damage I ever did to the people who loved me every time I got knocked down I got up again

00:43:41

better out of staying down but I've just gotten up again and I got a new job and everything's gonna

00:43:47

be okay except that I forgot to set the alarm and I wake up 10 minutes late and it starts.

00:43:55

I'm gonna get caught in traffic and I'm gonna be 20 minutes late and I'm gonna walk in and my

00:44:02

new boss is gonna say where have you been and I'm not gonna like the way he says it and I'm gonna

00:44:07

say what do you care and he's gonna say well I care plenty I pay your salary and I'm gonna say no

00:44:11

you don't I quit so I don't even go to bed. I'm paralyzed and I start to drink at that son of a

00:44:22

bitch and the one he treated me. The kind of fear that has caused me to walk six blocks around

00:44:32

a little dog in the dark he went yep yep and within two steps it went

00:44:39

it's a bullmastiff in the next bush and God put it on the planet to eat me

00:44:43

so I walked six blocks around it kind of fear that kept me from ever engaging in anything real

00:44:50

with people because I knew when you said hello I'd say something dumb and are we ever blessed here

00:45:03

we live in a world filled with a variety of sick people and they all have to learn to cope with fear

00:45:09

all the other techniques I've ever seen teach us how to cope with fear oh my cope were broke a long

00:45:15

time ago the word cope in my dictionary which my sponsors made a second bible means to fight

00:45:22

the good fight hell I'm all out of fight all I have to do in the fear situation this kind of fear

00:45:31

is admit of God and ask myself why I've got it and admit the fact that the fear is there because I

00:45:37

know beyond a shadow of a doubt I don't have the personal resources to deal with it I've known since

00:45:43

I was little I don't have what it takes all by myself I just don't and it leaves me frightened

00:45:49

because I know every now and then I'm going to accidentally do something right

00:45:54

you're going to want me to repeat it the next day and I don't even know I did it the first time

00:46:01

and what is our solution it's one filled with mercy it says all I need to do is ask God to remove the

00:46:08

fear from me and direct my attention to what he wants me to be what an incredible discovery it was

00:46:16

to find out that I am not what I do I'm not the job I have and I'm not the car I drive and I'm not

00:46:25

the clothes I wear I'm not what I do and so I can set all those phony images aside and when God's

00:46:32

helped direct my attention to what he wants me to be and that's scary you know what it says in the

00:46:38

big book he wants us to be spearheads of his ever advancing creation damn that's heavy duty

00:46:45

stuff for a drunk spearheads of his ever advanced right out in front which is where I like to be

00:46:53

anyway he wants me to be a demonstration of his great love and his power and his way of life

00:47:04

he wants me to be an example of what he can do man that's good stuff I came out of Berkeley that

00:47:12

way because I never had been one who can quietly get up in the morning go to work I've got to have a

00:47:17

cause well we've got one it's life and death I've been testing that fear prayer for a long time

00:47:26

and it's never failed me please remove from me this fear and direct my attention to what you would

00:47:31

have me be see in the third step I gave up my ambition whatever he wants me to be that's what

00:47:39

I'll be whatever he's got in mind is better than what I had in mind so when I get to having

00:47:44

ambitions personal ambitions I know automatically I'm off track here and the terror of that is

00:47:50

that if I get off track on a spiritual path and start getting selfish I get what I want

00:47:57

and I usually find myself in deep trouble because I don't know how to handle it I've learned some

00:48:04

tough lessons praying for the things I want and getting them I just didn't pray for what he was

00:48:13

for me that's good enough well I was two and a half years before I could take a sex inventory

00:48:21

I couldn't remember in addition to a lot of booze I did a lot of acid and wine mining haters and

00:48:27

amphetamines and uh man I don't mess you up when I finally took it it fit on the back of the three

00:48:34

but five card I was not super stud my whole sex life except for those two kids was up here

00:48:43

but a marvelous thing happened in that two year two and a half years I had been healed

00:48:48

then I could look at it honestly well I took that thing and I wasn't going back to that sponsor

00:48:55

and risking him telling me that's garbage too so I went with my friend Jim who was in the program

00:49:01

the same length of time I had been and he spent a whole afternoon with me sharing with me and I

00:49:07

picked Jim for a couple reasons you said find somebody who won't be overly affected and Jim was

00:49:12

the crazy nothing I could have said with the bothered him but I had a new sense of something

00:49:18

with Jim I was a loner but I wanted things to be okay for Jim see I wasn't that penitentiary for

00:49:24

a crime I could remember I'd committed it Jim was the first one in Colorado convicted under our new

00:49:30

drunk driving law he'd killed somebody driving his automobile drunk in a blackout

00:49:37

they told him why he was there but Jim had no memory of it he didn't know why he was there he

00:49:41

was a little baffled and I wanted to be better for Jim and somewhere I picked up what you taught

00:49:46

me the best way for me to make life better for another drunk is to share the garbage of my life

00:49:52

with him not the neat stuff garbage so I shared my garbage with Jim that day and he listened he

00:49:59

didn't talk back to me I tell me it wasn't that bad because we weren't dealing with what was

00:50:03

good and bad we were dealing with what's wrong with me and he only talked enough to

00:50:09

keep me moving and two marvelous things that happened that day I can tell you about them today I

00:50:15

experienced things today in understanding 68 weeks later but something changed that day I stopped

00:50:22

being a sprinter in the game of life I had finally finished something to the best of my ability

00:50:30

and I stopped being alone because I went into the room with the fella I needed

00:50:35

and somewhere that afternoon we ended up with two people me and a fellow named Jim

00:50:40

you see up till that point I'd been alone because it was me and whoever I needed you to be none of

00:50:44

you were ever real and that day Jim was there with me and I've never been a long since

00:50:52

I wish I had time to tell you the rest of the story about Jim it's magnificent maybe over the

00:50:56

coffee tables we can share that then I entered my evangelistic stage

00:51:05

I went back to myself and reviewed it and realized I had a lifetime of work to do but I

00:51:10

was done and asked God to remove this stuff but don't let the stuff I haven't found yet get me

00:51:14

before I find it and I'm still here and I found some more last week shabby stuff now

00:51:23

rape and murder that status I yelled at a kid a couple weeks ago and I asked myself why did I do

00:51:29

that first of all it's dumb and every who had kids know it's a minute you yelled at them you've

00:51:33

lost and it's not necessary for me to yell at children but I do when they threaten me and I found

00:51:43

that drives my little girls nuts because the minute I make that mistake I go do some inventory

00:51:49

and praying and talking to my sponsor and they can't push that button anymore the eighth and ninth step

00:51:59

alcoholics anonymous are the most blessed thing I've ever encountered I know God forgave me from

00:52:05

the beginning of time but I am so constituted that I must pay for my ticket I must do that

00:52:13

and we're told that that's also a must if I don't do that I'll probably die they wouldn't let me out

00:52:19

to make amends and they wouldn't let you in so I had to learn to write letters to some people

00:52:24

I'd owed one place a dollar and fifty cents for Christmas tree lights we got on credit that same

00:52:29

day I made ten cents a day I had to buy all my persons out of that and I had to write this guy

00:52:35

a letter telling who I was where I was and what I'd done to him and would he take a quarter

00:52:40

a month until I could pay it off and for a big time hootman that's demeaning it he said yes

00:52:50

the most important amends in my life were to my family

00:52:54

I get frustrated standing here because I've been walking hand in hand with God for

00:52:59

18 some years and that means each day has been filled with marvelous experiences and miracles

00:53:05

and I want to tell you about them all we're gonna have to just get together but I do need

00:53:11

to share with you the things that I found about my family my sponsor sent me to myself and said

00:53:18

the key to freedom is willingness and he said here's what I want you to do make a list of all the

00:53:25

people you've harmed start with a list of people that hurt you the most and then he said for you

00:53:30

non just add anybody can think of because if you met him you messed with him he said you know you

00:53:37

will find what you did to some of these people you know what you did to some of them but he said

00:53:41

you're so insensitive that you have no idea what it did to them so here's what he had me do he said

00:53:47

I want you to make the list and then picture each one of them separately and see if you can feel

00:53:53

wanting to look them right in the eye and say to each one of them I've been wrong I harmed you

00:54:00

would you please tell me what I have to do so we can get the books to balance and I started

00:54:06

going over my list that night and I was lifted and set free locked away for the night I was

00:54:15

literally lifted and set free because I'll look anybody in the eye and say that if I hurt you

00:54:19

you tell me what I have to do and that was so important in making amends to my family

00:54:27

you see I couldn't go back to my mother and just say geez mom I wish I hadn't done that

00:54:33

what you do after you ask what do I have to do is shut up while I tell you

00:54:38

and after I'd been out for a while my mother allowed me to come by the house

00:54:42

and I didn't say it in exactly those words but I found a way to ask her and I have become an

00:54:47

alcoholics anonymous a listener she said honey all I've ever wondered for you is for you to be

00:54:55

happy so on a regular basis I go by my mother's house happy that's it she told me it was six years

00:55:12

before she thought I was really gonna make it I wasn't going by to convince her of anything

00:55:19

my father's an incredible human being he used to make me crazy they haven't been able to measure

00:55:24

his IQ yet he's brilliant lives in a 48 room house full of stuff then it's a reflection of his

00:55:33

mind he's an electronics engineer and a consultant and a genius and I don't know what all he can do

00:55:40

he told me one day in the driveway he said Don I spent 60 years accumulating all this stuff and

00:55:46

I'm gonna spend the rest of my life giving it away and I heard what he really said he wasn't

00:55:50

talking about the stuff in the garage he's talking about this so I go by and visit with my bed quite

00:55:57

often which means I listen well he talks about all the things that he's discovering his life and

00:56:04

every now and I even understand it he gave me one the other day I'll give you because it's a gem

00:56:10

he said I'm 75 now and I finally learned there's really only two things a person needs to live a good

00:56:15

life honor and wisdom you say you got to have enough honor to keep every promise you ever make

00:56:21

no matter what the personal consequences enough wisdom not to make too many promises like that

00:56:38

I'm just about out of time and it just frustrates me beyond belief because it finally reached

00:56:42

the place where I may have something important to say but if you'll indulge me another five

00:56:46

minutes or so I'll be brief because there's some really important things I need to share with you

00:56:54

the nine years ago I met a sane lady I'd never met one I'd never even look for one

00:57:05

I didn't even know they were out there I had enough smarts to say yes

00:57:12

to move in with her and her two little girls and it much as I love this lady I've already raised

00:57:20

seven kids I've been after Dan Byrne for a long time and I thought I'd done my fair share

00:57:27

and I really wasn't sure I wanted to do that I worked in the penitentiary now I lived at the base

00:57:32

of Mount Princeton at 14,000 foot peak in the high country of Colorado worked six hours a day had

00:57:38

those two long-haired kids of mine who are now teenagers I worked six hours a day and went fishing

00:57:43

I felt like it we loved it I went into Denver once a week for my home group and I loved it and I

00:57:49

didn't want to give it up but I did and I'm so glad I did that you taught me about being in a

00:57:58

family you taught me how to recover through the 12 steps of alcoholics anonymous and how to live

00:58:05

as a family through the 12 traditions and we apply that in my home that's how we live

00:58:14

and these little girls are something once 15 once 13 now and they send their love to you

00:58:21

particularly the little one she loves you dearly you see when I go out of the house she's a little

00:58:26

nervous her daddy's a Denver detective and he has some bizarre need to tell them what he does

00:58:31

for living so when I leave at night they're a little frightened and when I'm gone over the

00:58:35

weekends they're a little frightened and I'm gone a lot because you asked me to work for you

00:58:40

and she'll ask me where are you going dad and I say honey I'm going to alcoholics anonymous

00:58:45

and I watch her relax because she knows if I'm here with you doing God's work he's watching my

00:58:51

house for me I've told her that she believes that

00:58:57

she'd have been with us today we came home found out we've been birthed our eyes

00:59:04

we asked burglars don't like that my older girl says my god what am I gonna tell the kids

00:59:14

in school I've been telling them god watches our house and because of what I know here I was

00:59:20

able to say to her honey he did we weren't here all I got was our stuff we didn't hurt

00:59:28

we're gonna have a garage sale anyway you have given me some of the greatest joy in my life I was

00:59:42

absolutely useless and that was a fact and you've trusted me with some jobs that are incredibly

00:59:52

important to alcoholics anonymous you let me have the key to the meeting room one time

00:59:59

probably the most important job in AA the guy with the key doesn't show up how are we gonna have

01:00:05

a meeting you allowed me to make coffee and I make awful coffee I've only held that job once

01:00:21

I caught a bad case of GSR a while back my sponsor had something I wanted and I found out he was

01:00:29

in service and it filled the last piece of me the piece that was missing I not only owe my life

01:00:37

to the next person that walks in the door I owe my life and dedicate my life to the person who

01:00:42

comes through the door when I'm dead and gone 50 years from now this thing must still be here if

01:00:47

if it's so choose if God so chooses it must be here so I have a stewardship I'm a caretaker

01:00:58

I'm currently serving you as trustee at large on your general service board

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which just absolutely blows me away I finally work my way to the bottom

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in our structure that's where it is I can't do a damn thing unless you ask me to

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the marvelous but as a result of that I'm gone a lot and I worry about my kids

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well my daughter my young daughter a few months ago had occasion to write a theme about her dad

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and she picked me she wrote eight pages of some of the neatest stuff I've ever written I mean I was

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glad to know me that day but her final paragraph rocked me where I lived she said if I'd had any

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choice I'd have picked on for my dad but I didn't have any choice so God picked him and brought him

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to me and I wondered at the emotion that I felt why I felt so deeply about that until I understood

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that's how I feel about you but I had any choice at all I'd have picked you but I didn't have any

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choice so God picked you and brought you to me and you have made my life worth something

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it no longer is any question in my mind that I don't belong here I belong here I came to you

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willing eager to die and because of what I have learned and experienced here I'm willing to live

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just as long as he wants whether my feet hurt or not I'm also willing if it should be his will

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when I leave this room tonight that this is it I go with a full heart there's nothing more I could

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do and yet on the airplane up here I had made a list of 22 things I want to do in the next couple

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months next Friday on your behalf I'm going to Guatemala alcoholics anonymous is alive and well

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in 114 countries and 27 of them are sending delegates to Guatemala next week so we can all share

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experience on how better to carry this message anywhere it seems that we translate real good

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this message is understood by people of all cultures and all mindsets and they're getting well

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all over the world and I get to go sit in the middle of that I couldn't earn it couldn't have planned it

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I'll guarantee you from reading the newspapers the last place I'd pick to go next week is Guatemala

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but on your behalf I'm going and I sincerely hope when I come back that somebody will ask me to

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tell you about it because I know it's gonna happen to me I'm gonna come back just as I am now

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unable to keep my big mouth shut I must tell you about it let's spend some time at the tables

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because I'm not through yet I want to hear you and I have a number of things I'd like to share

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with you in love but I'm all done for tonight I want to give you a gift it's my personal gift

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came to me as I came out of meditation one time my meditations are simple they have to be

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I go to a garden with my father I just kind of sit there and he walks with me he talks with me he

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tells me on his own and I used to take my burdens into the garden with me and I've earned not to

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do that I leave them outside the garden I just go in and generally when I come back out I've either

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got enough sense to just let them lay or I have the strength to pick them up I'm going to do

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something about them and as I came out one day I didn't have anything left to carry and this thing

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burst on me I had become everybody I had ever met or ever read about or seen in a movie

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and I was gonna have to spend the rest of my life sorting that out I'd already failed to do that

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and you told me no that didn't how we do it here what we do is kind of like the fellow who had seen

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the Statue of David but Michelangelo for the first time I don't know if you've seen it but it breathes

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and he was awestruck when he went to Michelangelo and he said how in the world did you do that

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Michelangelo said well I took a block of marble and I chipped away everything it didn't look like

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David and that's what I got and that's how I see Alcoholics Anonymous with God as the sculptor

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and all the funny little things we do here as the chisel and with me as a very willing block of

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stone one day at a time we're shaping away everything that doesn't look like none and so far this is

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what we've got thank you very much