# Big Book Weekend — 5

- Archive ID: `DP-2001-STONYPOINT`
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## Transcript

**[00:00:01]** I created a group of monsters. He and I, none of you have got everybody doing the work, meaning the steps. The steps are not to work. The steps are the preparation for the work. The work of Alcoholics Anonymous and the work of members of Alcoholics Anonymous are to carry the message of Alcoholics Anonymous to those who don't have the message.
**[00:00:36]** That's the work. The steps get me fit to do that. If I want to play football for a professional football team, there are exercises I must do to get in fit condition to be able to play in that game. Well, this is my game. There are exercises I must do to get fit. If I'm going to carry this message, I must be fit. And then I must continue doing certain exercises in order to stay fit.
**[00:01:08]** I can't get closer to God working the steps. Where I am, God is. I'm not going to get any closer than that. All I can do is perhaps increase my effectiveness by getting rid of my reluctance, which is what the steps are about, the things that block me. We were to retreat one time in small enough. We were going around talking about agendas. This was two years ago, and I heard myself say,
**[00:01:42]** myself say everybody was giving us why they were here for the weekend what they
**[00:01:45]** wanted and I start off by saying I'm here to get a better relationship with
**[00:01:53]** God sure sounded good realize as I said it's the most selfish thing I've ever
**[00:02:00]** said the relationship that's formed between God and I I don't form that God
**[00:02:06]** forms that and I conform those are the terms I understand if I'm trying to get
**[00:02:15]** a better relationship I'm trying to get I'm saying I don't have enough power I
**[00:02:21]** want some more we're back into that kooky thinking God be telling us what the
**[00:02:30]** relationship will be that I can form I comply with the conditions and the
**[00:02:38]** conditions are really rough he wants me to be happy joyous free useful child
**[00:02:51]** like I believe you like to be best when I'm goofy because his children laughs more
**[00:02:58]** when I am now selfishness and self-centeredness that we think is the
**[00:03:11]** root of our troubles do you believe that this is a checklist do I really
**[00:03:17]** believe that that's the truth or do I believe that it was what somebody did to
**[00:03:22]** me someone along the way or do I believe that life is not fair what do I believe
**[00:03:29]** do I believe that anything but selfish and self-centered is the root of my
**[00:03:35]** troubles now I may have some troubles on the branches but the root selfish and
**[00:03:42]** self-centeredness do I believe that we don't move on until I do because there's
**[00:03:48]** no need to go on until I do this is based on that premise if I don't believe
**[00:03:54]** it why bother driven by hundred forms of fear self delusion self-seeking and
**[00:04:02]** self-pity we step on the toes of our fellows and they retaliate I got a picture
**[00:04:14]** of my ego one time I was in a meeting and I was quoting this I quit doing that
**[00:04:19]** by the way I said driven by a thousand forms and after the meeting one of our
**[00:04:25]** big-book Nazis God Blessings and here he goes still core out of hand he said
**[00:04:30]** thousands and a hundred he was right I can't I even gonna exaggerate the truth
**[00:04:39]** left to my own devices a thousand sounded better than a hundred I'm sicker
**[00:04:47]** than now I like the idea of being driven by my ego because that's what it
**[00:04:58]** does driven like a mule somebody pounding me in the back of a head with a
**[00:05:07]** two-by-four driving me down the road I don't want to go that's my ego the main
**[00:05:15]** difference between living with selfishness and self-centeredness is that I'm
**[00:05:19]** driven by these forms of self delusion self-pity living a spiritual life means
**[00:05:26]** I'm led and it makes it a whole lot easier if you try it the more you drive
**[00:05:32]** me then more reluctant I am I like meals are a good image for me because I come
**[00:05:39]** from your country a meal is a deliberate cross between a horse and a donkey and it
**[00:05:46]** is sexless that's enough to make you stubborn right there you know they can't
**[00:05:53]** reproduce they have bad attitudes they're they're strong they have all the good
**[00:06:00]** qualities that are durable they're dedicated and they're stubborn I'm
**[00:06:08]** talking about a two-by-four in the back of the head in our country that's
**[00:06:13]** sometimes what you have to do you get started with that mule and the son of
**[00:06:17]** a bitch will just sit down and it's honestly gonna look at you and you can
**[00:06:23]** smack him with a stick and you just look at you you gonna pop him with a whip and
**[00:06:28]** just look at you what it takes to get him up is to hit him in the back of the
**[00:06:33]** head a couple times with a two before then you'll get up and walk but he's still
**[00:06:39]** looking at you do not want to get close okay I'm driven by these the delusion
**[00:06:50]** that somehow or another I can rest satisfaction and happiness out of life if
**[00:06:54]** I only manage well drives me to try to rest satisfaction and happiness out of
**[00:07:01]** life what I've learned about happiness is real simple there is no such thing
**[00:07:05]** as happiness you have to learn to be happy about it got that from Jerry Lewis
**[00:07:16]** once you got a spiritual mind you hear stuff everything here turn spiritual on
**[00:07:21]** you do I believe that my troubles are because based on self I stepped on
**[00:07:30]** somebody's toes and that's why they are yeah pretty much so there were some
**[00:07:36]** events as a tiny child that I'm all together sure but they didn't cause
**[00:07:42]** many trouble at the time anyway we just watched a phenomenal thing occur I don't
**[00:07:48]** want to bring into this midst in the midst of this the little ones adapt really
**[00:07:53]** well it's after we start thinking and reacting and begin to pick up rights and
**[00:07:57]** think then we become victims not until then our old grandson how old was he
**[00:08:04]** about eight months as a result of circumstances he was staying at someone
**[00:08:18]** else's house and she had to go out so her husband was watching him and next
**[00:08:24]** thing we know we got a baby on the way to the hospital with all the skin
**[00:08:28]** burned off of his hand a parent accident until we all got to see the burn there
**[00:08:36]** was no accident just like a glove this hand had been dipped in blowing something
**[00:08:42]** now setting aside all that drama which is not relevant to what I'm talking about
**[00:08:49]** because we all were a little traumatized the baby the baby went through this I'm
**[00:08:56]** watching the same month old baby with his hands burned and he just kind of
**[00:09:01]** sliding through and it's all healed up there's not even a scar and he's not the
**[00:09:08]** least bit traumatized by the event I'm in awe until I go way back in
**[00:09:15]** and realize that's pretty correct he's in the moment and it hurt when it hurt
**[00:09:22]** he cried and when it healed he healed and he didn't blame anybody he has no
**[00:09:27]** reference for blaming anybody nobody did anything to him it happened we know
**[00:09:34]** and and by the way we're putting that person in jail who did something but the
**[00:09:40]** baby don't know that wouldn't it be nice to get my own mind back into that
**[00:09:45]** place well that's what they did here let's help me get back to where I can
**[00:09:52]** honestly say to you today no one has ever done anything to me things were
**[00:10:01]** done to the guy who used to live here but no one's done anything to me so I don't
**[00:10:09]** have to carry all that baggage and that's part of what this process takes care of
**[00:10:14]** okay just grants on a Mars by the way I've got pictures and stories and don't
**[00:10:24]** get me started on his sister but that I wanted to tell you that because it just
**[00:10:33]** hit me how that correlates the purity of this baby and his inability somebody
**[00:10:40]** has to teach me about blame and teach me about being a victim and I'm not saying
**[00:10:46]** that doesn't happen I'm saying there's a time when when it does I can get past
**[00:10:52]** that and then there's a time after I learned too much where I can't get past
**[00:10:57]** that and this will help me examine that time so what it did it helped me pick
**[00:11:03]** out all the lies in my life for what they were so our troubles we think are
**[00:11:15]** basically of our own making somewhere up north Ruth was there one of the girls
**[00:11:32]** but I won't use your name because it's not appropriate she was buttoned down at
**[00:11:39]** this weekend this is what six seven years ago I mean buttoned down come back gear
**[00:11:45]** camouflage outfit button up to here button down to here boots button down to
**[00:11:52]** here you got one then three feet over you got this and she asked me a legitimate
**[00:11:59]** question at this point she says wait a minute when I was five years old my
**[00:12:05]** grandfather molested me what the hell could I have done it brought that on nothing
**[00:12:13]** that was causing trouble she helped me walk through this and I'm gonna share
**[00:12:18]** it with you because she helped me walk through it what happened at five really
**[00:12:23]** happened and somebody on a horse with that old bastard that's the first
**[00:12:28]** response but that wasn't the trouble it's never the trouble with me when
**[00:12:35]** something happens the trouble that comes later is what I did with it first time
**[00:12:39]** I remember that that didn't what happened at all it's colored by my own
**[00:12:44]** pain and by anybody else I happened to talk to about it and their take on it
**[00:12:49]** and 14 years of that is what's got me buttoned down 14 years of rehashing it the
**[00:12:58]** resentment that comes from rehashing it and changing it a little here and a
**[00:13:01]** little there what do you think about this gets added into it my response to
**[00:13:06]** my response gets added in so now I'm all buttoned down by something that never
**[00:13:10]** really happened anyway and if I'm ever going to be free I've got to get to what
**[00:13:15]** really happened I do the most impossible job of all forgive them that is what
**[00:13:23]** this is to do freedom comes from realizing that the people who harm me
**[00:13:29]** like myself were spiritually sick there is no other freedom I can write till
**[00:13:35]** doomsday it means nothing until I've done that I can pray forever and until I've
**[00:13:44]** done that it means nothing so our troubles really are wrong making do we
**[00:13:51]** believe that let me take some processing I want to plant that seat because this
**[00:13:59]** girl is no longer buttoned down and she and I walk through that and we both got
**[00:14:05]** the truth out of that and she processed that and I got to process and things
**[00:14:10]** that happened to me I've taken some meetings that I really had to take so I
**[00:14:18]** got to process it and she's not buttoned down anymore she does something
**[00:14:24]** incredibly magnificent artwork most painters take a blank thing and paint
**[00:14:32]** stuff on it she paints this thing and then takes paint off and that's what makes
**[00:14:40]** the picture good stuff very loving kind sweet girl so I'm inclined to think
**[00:14:50]** that what she walked with me through is probably true and that's what this says
**[00:14:54]** that's another take on that I'm still inclined to think similarly out of what
**[00:15:00]** the old son of a bitch but of course I'm not there I've got to forgive them to it
**[00:15:08]** doesn't mean that they are right that's what my alcoholic mind says if I admit
**[00:15:13]** that there is no fault here then that isn't fair that makes them right no it
**[00:15:22]** doesn't it makes me free that's really all care about I cannot be of help to
**[00:15:31]** anybody until I'm free of it okay I one of the things that came out of my
**[00:15:44]** inventory a little just a little piece in this area when I was 11 years old I
**[00:15:49]** got caught having sex and beaten really severely told it was gonna be cut off
**[00:15:56]** next time I defended God and my mother took a looking with a rubber hose you know
**[00:16:03]** I know a lot of drama behind this one I just a little kid it kind of warped
**[00:16:09]** things for a while but the thing I hung on to the anger that I hung on to the
**[00:16:16]** hook I had was it how unfair this was at 11 what could I possibly have known
**[00:16:21]** about it being wrong at 11 nobody told me anything was wrong and in inventory I
**[00:16:30]** got a clear picture I knew it was wrong we were hiding that way I may not know
**[00:16:35]** what was wrong but I know you don't get caught doing this freed me up the
**[00:16:44]** response may have been an over response but the response was one that was taught
**[00:16:47]** by those who went before and if I don't like that response let me get free then
**[00:16:54]** so I don't pass in on the buck stops here and the violence stops here the lack
**[00:17:03]** of love stops here you know what I'm doing is to forgive that to understand
**[00:17:09]** this is their seconds behind this well people don't do things like that you
**[00:17:17]** catching it you catching the sense of freedom that comes from that and it
**[00:17:23]** isn't fair it's just awful because it's not fair thank God oh my they arise out
**[00:17:35]** of ourselves what happened to me 40 years ago didn't happen today and I've
**[00:17:43]** I'm troubled by it it's arising out of myself that's just the truth I'm making
**[00:17:49]** it happen they did a bad thing once I do it damner every day for 40 years how
**[00:17:58]** many times is that now who's the idiot above everything we alcoholics must be
**[00:18:11]** rid of this selfishness I have rights I've been mistreated that's the kind of
**[00:18:17]** selfishness I am better than that why did they do this to me blah blah blah
**[00:18:23]** blah we must be rid of this selfishness we must read kills us God makes that
**[00:18:32]** possible and there often seems no way of entirely getting rid of self without his
**[00:18:37]** aid we have just entered into a peripheral time and so we can look at
**[00:18:44]** these things safely we're in the midst of a spiritual activity we are safe and
**[00:18:50]** protected we're just giving our lives entirely God and we're looking for the
**[00:18:54]** things that are killing us we're safe and protected I can go back and look at
**[00:19:00]** I know and not be totally terrified well this is how I live first of all we had
**[00:19:11]** to quit playing God that's a really unfair thing to say to me every time I
**[00:19:17]** rehashed the deal I'm playing God saying you should have done it this way then I
**[00:19:23]** could have done it this way and then you just said and then I just said and then
**[00:19:29]** we'd have brought him in and he'd have gotten on my team and we'd have all said
**[00:19:33]** and then you just said I'm playing God trying to decide what you're supposed to
**[00:19:39]** be I don't know whether you're supposed to be loving and kind or a mean
**[00:19:41]** son of a bitch I really don't I want to find out quickly because if you're
**[00:19:47]** supposed to be a mean son bitch I don't be around you but I don't get to make that
**[00:19:53]** choice so we have to quit playing God the business of the actor on the stage
**[00:20:02]** is wonderful I'm busy here assigning everybody to your role you like me and
**[00:20:07]** you support me and you we brought up I was brought up that way I'm supposed to
**[00:20:20]** feed this whole damn family a wife and seven kids I gotta provide for them that's
**[00:20:33]** a big load I'm supposed to provide what and all that stuff and I get caught up
**[00:20:42]** in that so I assigned myself a role good father good husband good citizen and I
**[00:20:51]** can't for any of them what does a good citizen do well some good a citizen's
**[00:20:57]** join the PTA some join the Chamber of Commerce some adopt a street and I'm an
**[00:21:03]** alcoholic I don't pick any one I gotta do them all
**[00:21:08]** alright you too yeah so I get busy my sponsor one time said you know we're
**[00:21:20]** supposed to practice these principles and all our affairs and that means we
**[00:21:25]** practice them at home too and in order to do that you have to be there once in
**[00:21:31]** a while revelation drop about 50 these activities are making me crazy none of my
**[00:21:40]** business anyway my troubles are my own making and I'm busy assigning roles to you
**[00:21:46]** and to me kids are supposed to be seen not heard whether you have seven of try
**[00:21:53]** get try that one on a house for seven kids they will be heard and if you don't
**[00:22:02]** like it you're dead meat we had a set of twins that were little bitty ones they'd
**[00:22:09]** bite you down to where the big ones could stomp you that's what it felt
**[00:22:16]** like in that house until I got my head straight with it we had a group
**[00:22:21]** conscience one time over the noise because it really wasn't a noisy place
**[00:22:27]** we also had a dog and a couple white Siamese cats he's just so we had group
**[00:22:35]** conscience formal group conscience this is back in my legalistic day to try to
**[00:22:45]** come up with solution to the yelling in the screaming and the seven-year-old had
**[00:22:50]** the best solution of all it was the best nobody else could think of anything
**[00:22:54]** better than this the screamer was to get on top of the refrigerator and jump
**[00:22:59]** off on her head that's it and no matter how long we talk nobody came up with a
**[00:23:07]** better idea than that which brought us to the resolution into the truth if you
**[00:23:16]** live in a house with two adults seven children a couple dogs and a couple cats
**[00:23:23]** it's got to be noisy learn to live with it but learn to kind of take care of each
**[00:23:29]** other too maybe it doesn't have to be all that noisy maybe if we feel like
**[00:23:35]** screaming we can go out in the backyard and scream out there maybe we'll be a little
**[00:23:40]** kinder to each other it led us to some good stuff anyway I've got I get off
**[00:23:45]** track so do we all agree we got a quit playing God I'm just running check
**[00:23:52]** this for you are she to be you ever used to be playing God
**[00:24:01]** and I'd pick the right one huh you gotta be honest is it why is it a hard one cuz
**[00:24:14]** you're in the way who's your sponsor I'm through worrying about you man you
**[00:24:27]** don't have a chance we're gonna be all right do you believe that that will be
**[00:24:43]** one of the conditions of continuing to build a relationship with God isn't you
**[00:24:47]** could playing God that's the more appropriate way of asking the question
**[00:24:51]** I don't have to accomplish this I just have to be willing and look at the truth
**[00:24:56]** of it next we decide that here after in this drama life God is going to be our
**[00:25:03]** director he's giving us a number of images because Bill knew in the human
**[00:25:09]** condition we all need images I've got to be able to relate to something and I
**[00:25:13]** can't relate to God at this point it's too big he's the director well I know a
**[00:25:23]** lot of theater people I was raising musicians and theater people and I am a
**[00:25:28]** good actor I'm not good enough to go on the stage so I've quit that but I
**[00:25:33]** recognize them most good actors make very poor directors there are a few that
**[00:25:41]** can do both but not many but it's a pretty small number because one of the
**[00:25:46]** requisites of being a good actor is that you can become truly character
**[00:25:50]** centered we would call it self-centered once I'm character centered there is no
**[00:25:59]** question in my mind the center stage under the main spot is where this play
**[00:26:05]** works best for me and all the rest of them are peripheral and they're feeding
**[00:26:10]** into my character who is the essence of the play it takes somebody who can stand
**[00:26:17]** back and look at the whole picture to put the actors in the right place at the
**[00:26:23]** right time because most others want more lines better lighting count the house
**[00:26:33]** first if it isn't full delay until they all get here and that's just the way of it
**[00:26:42]** and I can get ahold of that image I can work with that see my mind's gonna
**[00:26:46]** think anyway my mind's gonna work I might as well give it something to think
**[00:26:49]** about I cannot shut it off it's not built that way one of the places that
**[00:27:01]** took me just for fun because I really do like to think try to see how this fits
**[00:27:09]** one of the most memorable lines in all of theater is not the last poor
**[00:27:19]** Yorick I knew him well that's pretty well known but even better known is from
**[00:27:25]** at least in my generation it's from a little English farce they had meaningless
**[00:27:31]** play I don't even remember the name of the play but most everybody remembers
**[00:27:36]** the idiot who comes flying in the French doors to the outside and his tennis
**[00:27:41]** outfit in the middle of a key dramatic piece says tennis anyone
**[00:27:48]** the whole play pivoted on tennis anyone and it took a good director to
**[00:28:00]** spot that I wouldn't have spotted that I would much rather have been in the
**[00:28:03]** midst of the drama so I can work with this image he's the father and worries
**[00:28:10]** children I had old difficulty with that because of my own attitudes toward my
**[00:28:17]** own father at the time see he didn't give me what I needed when I was far nobody
**[00:28:25]** could I need way too much for any human being to ever be able to give me
**[00:28:30]** what I need oh yeah just true and I was really pissed at him because he didn't
**[00:28:38]** measure up I know what father is here my conception of God I understand father
**[00:28:47]** not as a gender thing but as a principal and my dad didn't match it despite the
**[00:28:55]** fact that he was always there when he loved me to care of me he took us on
**[00:29:01]** trips this is a man who had worked really hard for three or four months at his own
**[00:29:06]** business really hard so he had the luxury in the fourth month I'm taking two or
**[00:29:13]** three weeks off taking us out of school I'm taking us on trips to New Mexico and
**[00:29:20]** Arizona and Colorado and Utah because he knew that's what we really learned
**[00:29:24]** about life and school is important but these trips were more important as a
**[00:29:28]** family he flew a little airplane and he painted a big silver circle on the top
**[00:29:34]** of the mother's car and he put one of the kids in the plane with him mom and the
**[00:29:40]** other two kids head down the road and he'd come a couple hours afterwards and he
**[00:29:45]** fly until they saw that spot on the car and then he land in a field somewhere
**[00:29:51]** and trade kids off and I'm sitting there fisting so I kind of got this
**[00:30:03]** eventually he was a really good father but no human being can ever match up to
**[00:30:13]** my understanding what father reading is but I'd like to be a good father too so
**[00:30:18]** let's look at those characteristics and we can examine some of those later I can
**[00:30:25]** accept this he's the father and worries children well that's nice because that's
**[00:30:31]** all I want to be anyway I just want to be a little kid I'm all about play I don't
**[00:30:41]** be serious I've got this is a scary planet they got things on this planet to
**[00:30:47]** eat you personally I just want to be a kid and have some fun and laugh and I'll be
**[00:30:59]** serious about things but I want to laugh and have fun I want to play
**[00:31:05]** we almost overdosed but still haven't we gone for a little over an hour y'all
**[00:31:35]** won't break that let's take a little short break yeah we're about to get get
**[00:31:41]** serious but let's take a little break first as we look at this movement on
**[00:32:02]** toward some more action I want to back up just just a little ways on page 62
**[00:32:10]** right in the middle of page where it starts off so our troubles we think are
**[00:32:16]** basically of our own making about halfway down there it says and there
**[00:32:22]** often seems no way of entirely getting rid of self without his aid and that
**[00:32:29]** suggests to me this is about getting rid of self which is to say if I follow
**[00:32:37]** that thought through I don't need any self esteem do I and I don't even really
**[00:32:45]** need to learn to love myself I really truly don't in fact the best thing that
**[00:32:56]** I could do I'll never achieve it in this lifetime but the best thing I could do
**[00:33:01]** would be to completely forget myself it happens to be true and I I've
**[00:33:10]** discovered that along the way the real joy and much of what we get to do is
**[00:33:16]** getting to watch you all really and the last thing I'll leave and then we'll get
**[00:33:23]** on to some specific instructions here I've even had people tell me by the way if
**[00:33:31]** you have somebody tell you something and it doesn't create a resonance don't buy
**[00:33:37]** it just because they said it I don't care if they have had 25 years or 25
**[00:33:42]** minutes here it doesn't create a resonance with you look at it very
**[00:33:46]** carefully I've shared with you some of the things my sponsor told me and and I
**[00:33:52]** knew there was truth in them when I was told it even though I didn't like it one
**[00:33:58]** of the things that I was told when I got early here was that I had to do this for
**[00:34:04]** myself and way down deep inside of me I truly knew that I wasn't worth it my
**[00:34:13]** kids were my mother my brothers were but I wasn't worth it I needed to be doing
**[00:34:20]** this to watch the disappointment leave their faces and so that's the main
**[00:34:25]** reason that I ended up being here was I was tired of a terrible disappointment
**[00:34:30]** I could see it with my kids were experiencing time after time after time
**[00:34:34]** and so you know and I knew when I'm here that I'd say people say well Jerry you
**[00:34:41]** got to want to do this for yourself no I don't that's my experience okay I got
**[00:34:52]** the mic so I get to share if you have a different thought there's a mic there
**[00:35:03]** but don't you say a word says after we take the third step next we launch on a
**[00:35:17]** course of vigorous action the first step which is a personal house cleaning
**[00:35:21]** which many of us had never attempted now we really haven't have what what we
**[00:35:29]** have done at least it's been my experience is that we have all done the
**[00:35:32]** first three columns of this thing of the resentment and part of the inventory
**[00:35:37]** and I'll tell you about those columns in a minute we've been doing that first
**[00:35:40]** three columns all over lives where we have she pissed me off because she left
**[00:35:49]** me and it embarrassed the hell out of me and it affected my relations with her
**[00:35:54]** that's columns one two and three see it's not it's not complicated though our
**[00:36:06]** decision meaning the third step though our decision was a vital and crucial step
**[00:36:11]** could have little permanent effect unless at once followed by a strenuous
**[00:36:15]** effort to face and to be rid of the things in ourselves which have been
**[00:36:20]** blocking us our liquor was but a symptom so we had to get down to causes and
**[00:36:25]** conditions to face and to be rid of that is by the way it's a very subtle little
**[00:36:32]** deal but it's a promise we're not see one of the things that frightened me about
**[00:36:37]** this spiritual path was people kept talking about this inventory and I
**[00:36:42]** knew in the inventory process there was going to be some revelation and one of
**[00:36:47]** the reasons that I didn't want to do it because I don't want to get down to
**[00:36:50]** that stuff I don't want to have to dredge all that junk back up Don mentioned
**[00:36:57]** earlier you don't need to tell me when I've messed up got almighty I know when
**[00:37:02]** I've done the wrong thing if somebody says that we don't know the difference
**[00:37:07]** between right and wrong that's incorrect I know the difference between right and
**[00:37:12]** wrong and I'm painfully aware of the difference between right and wrong I don't
**[00:37:17]** need to dredge it up in the sense of dredge it up and then live with it but I
**[00:37:23]** tell you what it says here we're going to be able to be rid of it and by now in
**[00:37:26]** the process very first time I was carried through this I understood that I could
**[00:37:32]** not be rid of it on my power but there was another power which has been added
**[00:37:37]** in and that's going to be involved in this being rid of so that's a nifty little
**[00:37:43]** promise like I say it's one that I think is somewhat hidden but there it is we're
**[00:37:47]** going to face it but then we're going to be rid of the things which are blocking
**[00:37:50]** us from the sunlight of the spirit and therefore we started upon a personal
**[00:37:55]** inventory I just want to jump in for a minute on this piece right here that's
**[00:38:04]** what made it possible for me to look at what I had done to the people I love
**[00:38:07]** the most my kids my parents the people like that because I couldn't be rid of
**[00:38:13]** it now that is why I came here with to be changed this is not an effort for me
**[00:38:19]** to find out who I am this is an effort to help me find out who I'm not then when
**[00:38:26]** you rid of that and who I am will just show up much simpler I couldn't face what
**[00:38:33]** I had done with the children particularly I didn't beat my kids and I just a step
**[00:38:39]** on the road me yelling at them that kind of thing weren't that I had come to
**[00:38:45]** believe already I could be done with that the value of keeping it fresh and
**[00:38:52]** alive if you've got one of those dark worms in your head you can't get free
**[00:38:57]** to come of it because of it I can tell you you can get free of that one to be
**[00:39:04]** rid of it but whoever you are show up along those same lines just a little
**[00:39:14]** footnote one of the things that I believe comes closer to killing more
**[00:39:19]** alcoholics than anything else is the idea of what they should be and they
**[00:39:27]** damn near kill themselves trying to be that I should not have a resentment
**[00:39:34]** toward my mother I know that with all my heart and because I thought I shouldn't
**[00:39:42]** and the longer you stay sober and live around this bunch of folks and many of
**[00:39:46]** them who are doing inventory and have been free to that and have entered that
**[00:39:51]** forgiveness state of spirit and if you're around those kind of folks and you
**[00:39:55]** haven't been able to do yet do that yet but you know you should and so you
**[00:40:00]** think on our own power I should learn how to forgive and you can't do it you
**[00:40:05]** just can't do it and so that little thought I believe truly believe it kills
**[00:40:13]** more alcoholics you believe I should be good now and I can't be so as we move
**[00:40:18]** down through this let me give you one little underlying thought or context the
**[00:40:25]** fabric of what we're talking about here I can't be good it's not in me to be
**[00:40:32]** good if I get rid of enough stuff some good will begin to show up from time to
**[00:40:41]** time that's the very best that I can do and that's the power of the Spirit
**[00:40:46]** flowing through me I am not a demonstration or as I always thought
**[00:40:54]** there's a part of this little book that says we asked God to let us demonstrate
**[00:40:57]** what we can do is that what it says no we try to let God demonstrate through us
**[00:41:04]** what he can do entirely different deal the alcoholic mind gets a hold of a good
**[00:41:08]** deal and you twist it just a little now I want to be a demonstration
**[00:41:13]** this isn't about me being in demonstrations about the power of God
**[00:41:17]** demonstrating through me what he can do so this is all about Jerry getting
**[00:41:22]** rid of Jerry and whatever shows up you'll get to see it and I'll get to see it a
**[00:41:27]** little bit of luck we'll both be happy sure wouldn't have been happy to see
**[00:41:32]** what was there before so a business which takes no regular inventory usually
**[00:41:39]** goes broke picking your commercial inventory the fact finding in fact
**[00:41:42]** facing process the people that come to my house that we sat down and talked to
**[00:41:47]** that's something that they get awfully tired of hearing because I will tell
**[00:41:52]** them let's take the drama out of this and let's get down to the facts and they're
**[00:41:57]** right Jackie what are the facts I mean because the drama is all about well but
**[00:42:03]** you need to understand Jerry when he did this and we go all over the place
**[00:42:09]** what are the facts darling what are the facts back facing back finding process
**[00:42:17]** you're going to hear something about columns and and I don't want to get
**[00:42:21]** technical here please in fact maybe I should tell you a quick story of my own
**[00:42:27]** personal experience and going through this process the very first time 13 years
**[00:42:31]** sober terribly sick alcoholically speaking been away from the drink for a
**[00:42:35]** long time mine was terribly damaged with untreated alcoholism that I could
**[00:42:42]** barely make sense of out of anything couldn't have gone through this book on
**[00:42:45]** my own just couldn't do it and yet on the outside I look like a perfectly
**[00:42:49]** functioning individual no you didn't see that's well the truth that's right
**[00:43:02]** sky the truth be told in case you all haven't figured out yet from time to time
**[00:43:06]** I will make reference to a son of a bitch who was my sponsor he's sitting here and
**[00:43:23]** I was on a roll too what's that yeah put him on put him on my list column one
**[00:43:36]** down kind of a little bit of fun along those lines I like what he had I do what
**[00:43:47]** he does to the best of my ability I've never had to put him on my list I was
**[00:44:08]** getting the instructions to this very clearly and I honest to God believe that
**[00:44:14]** I was doing this my first time through here I thought boy I'll tell you what
**[00:44:17]** now that somebody has shown me how to do this I got it and I'm doing this right
**[00:44:23]** and I have a god awful need to do things right I mean it's just I mean it's
**[00:44:29]** way down deep inside of me I got to do it right and got to do it perfect and I
**[00:44:33]** honest to God believe that it did a couple of years after I've done that first
**[00:44:38]** inventory done a number of inventories after that but I've done two years down
**[00:44:42]** the road I was taking a bunch of guys to the book and I said I want you to
**[00:44:46]** understand this inventory process and I want you to learn how to do it right and
**[00:44:51]** the best way I can help you with that is to show you my inventory because I
**[00:44:56]** got it from one of the best and he showed me how to do it right and so I'll get
**[00:45:00]** that out next week when we meet I'll I'll let you see my inventory so they
**[00:45:05]** left that night and I went in and I saved my inventory see I've still got a
**[00:45:08]** ten years to go and then so I pulled it out and I was all and it's a spiral
**[00:45:13]** notebook and I pulled that spiral notebook out and opened the first two
**[00:45:16]** three pages and that wasn't the right stuff that was kind of garbage
**[00:45:21]** so I flipped over some more pages and that wasn't the right stuff either I'm
**[00:45:26]** writing I could clearly remember writing this stuff in perfect columns I mean
**[00:45:32]** perfect columns and so I flipped over some more pages and it was still just
**[00:45:36]** garbage and I went through that whole thing toward the very tail end of that
**[00:45:40]** resume inventory I began to see what loosely translated looked like columns
**[00:45:49]** very loosely but I'll tell you a little something I was doing it and that's what
**[00:45:57]** this was all about at that particular point so while I may talk about columns
**[00:46:03]** and so on and so forth I understand that this is a spiritual deal and the spirit
**[00:46:08]** is very forgiven do we how do we do it we just do it the best we can and that's
**[00:46:14]** as right as you're going to get so fact-facing and fact-finding process
**[00:46:22]** just one of the facts can I I just want to back what you said my very first
**[00:46:26]** inventory was a lie it was I had so desperately wonder what they had that I
**[00:46:35]** took a chance did their step and all that and ran off when I didn't get the
**[00:46:39]** results I thought I finally asking what do I have to do to make this real he said
**[00:46:44]** down God will reveal your himself to you as you reveal yourself to you but I
**[00:46:49]** went off to do an inventory and I did not take time to find out how to do it I
**[00:46:53]** didn't wait for the school session I didn't go I just sat down and spent two
**[00:46:57]** hours making lists of some of the worst things I'd ever done and I took it back
**[00:47:06]** in my sponsor two hours later it took two hours to get it done and he looked at
**[00:47:13]** and said that's garbage he wrote that to impress me get away and this is the
**[00:47:21]** same guy's been loving and kind to me I'm alcoholic I found a guy that would
**[00:47:30]** listen I spent two hours trying to be honest somebody's bug I can listen and
**[00:47:37]** because this is a spiritual I don't know the word process is alright but it's
**[00:47:46]** more than that we're in the midst of an active prayer God is involved here and
**[00:47:52]** all things work when God's it worked it all works out okay and I would tell
**[00:48:00]** Leroy something I've done Leroy would say oh that wasn't all that bad Leroy was
**[00:48:06]** one of the politicians of our a group from the Lee Wolf why else would I pick
**[00:48:10]** he was the top dog he didn't know anything about a but he was the top dog
**[00:48:18]** that wasn't that bad I tell him something else and he'd say that wasn't that bad
**[00:48:24]** and I said what over the list were they might begin to be aware but I was in
**[00:48:28]** serious trouble because some of it was that bad and of what I had done is once
**[00:48:34]** again picked somebody who would tell me what I wanted to hear so I didn't have
**[00:48:39]** to do anything about it and if I didn't stop that immediately and I was gonna
**[00:48:46]** die a very ugly death I'm not afraid of death I've died three times I can
**[00:48:52]** remember but to die an ugly death does mean that for some period prior to that
**[00:48:58]** I will have to live an ugly life I can't tolerate that anymore so in the
**[00:49:04]** midst of the lie because I had brought nothing but war on this to be clear
**[00:49:10]** with it God did his little magic thing and it all worked out well I went back and
**[00:49:18]** learned how to do this thing the way it says to do it here and got it clear but
**[00:49:24]** I had some spiritual events take place in the midst of the lie as long as you're
**[00:49:29]** in prayer you're all right doesn't feel good but you're still all right we are
**[00:49:33]** safe and protected second says one object here that we're we're ever is an
**[00:49:47]** effort to discover the truth about the stock and trade now the truth about the
**[00:49:51]** stock and trade happens to be our truth it's my truth you know I told you here
**[00:49:57]** when we started out this session that one of my great difficulties and I see
**[00:50:01]** some other people struggling with it a bit is we have an idea about what we
**[00:50:05]** should look like after a couple of years or so variety or after five years we
**[00:50:10]** have this image about well by now I should be a lot more recovered than I am
**[00:50:15]** what in the hell do real sick people know about what they should look like
**[00:50:18]** after a certain period of time when is there a chart up on the walls some place
**[00:50:23]** that I miss it said you should look like this when you're five years like this
**[00:50:26]** when you're 10 you know but but we conjure that up see we can take the truth
**[00:50:32]** and squirrel it all up that's how weird we are but it's the objective is to
**[00:50:41]** discover the truth about ourselves well I don't want to have resentments toward
**[00:50:45]** anybody that goes against the spirit deep within me but the truth the
**[00:50:50]** manners it did have I really did I had some serious serious resentment and I
**[00:50:57]** didn't know what to do with it and we make this thing so complicated I said
**[00:51:05]** well what do I do now and I have a dear loving sponsor who said do you know do
**[00:51:11]** you have any paper I said what do you mean what are you driving that he said
**[00:51:16]** well doesn't it say we make a list I said well yeah I suppose but what does that
**[00:51:20]** have what should you have any paper I said well yeah I have paper you know I
**[00:51:26]** have a streak of arrogance in me I don't know if anybody else doesn't know but I
**[00:51:29]** did yeah I have paper well they said why don't you get it I said okay then what
**[00:51:33]** I do you said but you're gonna make a list and I said yeah he said well once you
**[00:51:37]** get a pencil oh okay I began to get the idea that I'm gonna have to do
**[00:51:47]** something besides just dwell on this for a little while this is a little action
**[00:51:53]** involved here you have to get paper and a pencil and then start a column and in
**[00:51:59]** the column I think it's so neat all you have to do and if you want to do it in
**[00:52:03]** the column format I I choose to because I'm I have a tendency if I try it any
**[00:52:07]** other way I'm the odds are I'll squirrel it up somehow I just will and but you
**[00:52:15]** but your columns don't necessarily have to go this way I've seen people who write
**[00:52:18]** columns across did do it whatever works for you then any rate is said we make a
**[00:52:25]** list of people with whom we're angry don't know and I said well listen I they
**[00:52:32]** are calling mine is a dangerous thing my alcoholic mind knew that I was not
**[00:52:37]** supposed to be angry or resentful or hate anybody so because I shouldn't feel
**[00:52:42]** that way I made myself try to bleed but I didn't feel that way and it almost
**[00:52:48]** killed me I said God you're gonna have to show me whatever it is you want me to
**[00:52:55]** know because I can't see anything here back the minute I don't think I'm like
**[00:52:59]** these other alcoholics describing the book at all anyway you know I've never
**[00:53:04]** known myself to get you know be kind on one occasion and and and egotistical and
**[00:53:12]** mean on the other I don't think I've ever done that I all I can ever remember is
**[00:53:15]** just being kind we have strange memories to and I but I really believe that and
**[00:53:28]** so I as in all things that as I've gone through this process process and way of
**[00:53:34]** living had to come to discover the very difficult way I have to rely intensely
**[00:53:40]** on prayer all the time so I said God listen whatever you want me to know
**[00:53:44]** about myself you're gonna have to reveal it to me because I can't just set
**[00:53:48]** here and conjure up the people I have resentments to work because I believe it
**[00:53:52]** didn't have any and God has such a beautiful sense of humor a couple of days
**[00:53:58]** after I had that prayer I ended up in a laundry mat where I was washing coals and
**[00:54:04]** I finished washing them and and I had waited too late to wash them I didn't
**[00:54:09]** start the the washing machine till about midnight and so they they came out
**[00:54:16]** about 12 30 and I put them in the dryer and by this time it's going on one
**[00:54:19]** o'clock in the morning and I'm tired I don't know what you guys do when you get
**[00:54:22]** tired I get terribly grassy I mean just terribly grassy my whole perception of
**[00:54:29]** reality gets terrifically warped so anyway I put these clothes in the dryer
**[00:54:34]** and I understand this is a commercial laundry and there's a dryer up above and
**[00:54:38]** a dryer down below and in the center row there are dual controls one for the
**[00:54:44]** upper dryer and one for the lower dryer so I put mine in there I set my clothes
**[00:54:48]** and I'm fine I'll leave and as I'm leaving a woman comes in and takes a few
**[00:54:53]** little things out of one of the washing machines and she puts it down below and
**[00:54:58]** I see her fiddling with the controls and something niggles at me but I don't pay
**[00:55:04]** much attention and I go on because I'm tired I get back an hour later my clothes
**[00:55:09]** are still wet I couldn't figure out what happened I looked it down at the
**[00:55:15]** setting on my dryer and it was set for no heat she didn't need any heat for
**[00:55:21]** her stuff I needed heat for my stuff and at that moment in time I took my
**[00:55:26]** laundry basket and I slammed it up against one wall box of soap and slammed it up
**[00:55:31]** against another wall and I began to talk about them goddamn the women they have
**[00:55:36]** been jacking around with me my whole life it was all of them from the time
**[00:55:50]** I was a little kid in kindergarten you got your women been jacking around with
**[00:55:56]** me you can't trust them Jack with you in the laundry mat that Jack with you out
**[00:56:02]** on the dance floor and the Jack with you on the highway god damn next morning when
**[00:56:14]** I got up I thought I could list one resentment women now we laugh about that
**[00:56:28]** but I tell you that's that's an honest story I believe that you all had been
**[00:56:32]** jacking with me my whole life meanwhile I continue to pray slowly but surely it
**[00:56:47]** came apparent to me that my mother had kind of mess with me one time and I wrote
**[00:56:53]** my mother down there and as I paused a little bit I thought you know she jacked
**[00:56:59]** with me one other time too she's pretty damn abusive with me blah blah blah and
**[00:57:04]** so my list began to slowly but surely grow the point I'm driving as it it came
**[00:57:10]** through prayer I have to always rely upon prayer and Lord oh God I know it
**[00:57:19]** doesn't take me very long to write down of what they did to me I mean they I
**[00:57:24]** could just say name they mess with me I doesn't take a lot of writing to get
**[00:57:30]** clear about what they did to me now I will qualify that and tell you that
**[00:57:35]** sometimes our mind is so damaged that we have to do a lot of writing to or in
**[00:57:41]** order to finally get down to that little grain of truth grain of truth won't be
**[00:57:46]** more than about 12 or 13 words long but you may have to write a couple pages to
**[00:57:51]** get there I'm not recommending that don't get me wrong I just know what us
**[00:57:55]** ockes will do the examples in the book on page 65 as you can see column two the
**[00:58:02]** examples there are very very short in in the column two area but we get a little
**[00:58:08]** long and a little long-winded well we've been damaged don't you know so
**[00:58:15]** terribly terribly hurt says resemblance a number one offender and that's what we're
**[00:58:23]** talking about halfway down to that paragraph it says when the spiritual
**[00:58:28]** melody is overcome we straighten out mentally and physically in that a hell
**[00:58:35]** of a promise when the spiritual melody is overcome we straighten out mentally
**[00:58:41]** and physically and because I've had the opportunity to walk with some of you
**[00:58:45]** down this little journey I know many of you who have begun to recover mentally
**[00:58:52]** and physically as a result of doing this now it's in my mind that I need to be
**[00:58:59]** better physically and mentally and then I'll do the spiritual stuff I've always
**[00:59:04]** had a tendency to put things backwards since I have enough money I'll go
**[00:59:08]** through the steps as soon as I get my home life straighten out again I'll go
**[00:59:12]** through the steps you know as soon as everything in my life is okay then I'll
**[00:59:16]** go through the steps hey listen I'm an ocky once everything's okay I ain't
**[00:59:20]** going through the damn step viewpoint from my experience
**[00:59:31]** resentment is the number one offender from its stem all forms of spiritual
**[00:59:37]** disease resentment is not a mental or emotional problem it is a spiritual
**[00:59:44]** disease it must be treated with spiritual means which is very nice because
**[00:59:52]** that's what we're doing from its stem all forms of spiritual disease it says it
**[00:59:58]** must be the granddaddy of all of them earlier on in this book I was asked as a
**[01:00:03]** set aside prejudices particularly against spiritual terms to ask myself what does
**[01:00:10]** that mean to me so I use that all through the programming what does that
**[01:00:17]** mean what is a spiritual disease I'm cut off from my spiritual source I'm
**[01:00:35]** casting about trying to find power cut off from my power the problem will be
**[01:00:44]** solved as soon as I find power simple problem simple solution he also tells
**[01:00:53]** me later that why would resentment be a spiritual disease well anything that
**[01:01:03]** separates me from the children of God separates me from God I'm already
**[01:01:10]** accepted the fact that I'm you and you are me and we're all children of God so
**[01:01:15]** what I'm looking at for the things that separate me from you because they are
**[01:01:20]** the things that are separate and it's all self jealousy you have something I
**[01:01:26]** want that sense of lack all the things it will somebody I hope that's real I've
**[01:01:42]** heard that kind of stuff when it wasn't anybody in the room man the whole idea
**[01:01:59]** of God is too big for me got to get it down or I can deal with it if my
**[01:02:07]** relationship with you is not right I will try to fix it I will screw it up
**[01:02:13]** every time if I get my relationship with our father right ours will be right too
**[01:02:22]** because it'll be based on this other I'm not looking to you to be the source of
**[01:02:27]** my well-being I don't have those expectations on you so you can't fail
**[01:02:33]** me I don't expect it a lot of things happen when I finally understand what
**[01:02:40]** that means to me it separates me from the children of God so that separates
**[01:02:44]** me from God that's complicated enough secondly if I resent you you own me
**[01:02:51]** realize the world is people dominated this you can be dead or in another city
**[01:03:03]** and if I resent you you are running my life you own me you own my mind you keep
**[01:03:09]** me from sleeping you keep me from dealing with anybody else it even looks
**[01:03:13]** close like you women that's a lot of people you know I've got one set of
**[01:03:25]** genes it says I need several and then the resemblance is I am messing with me I'll
**[01:03:31]** mess with me and I am sick to death of being owned by the kind of people that
**[01:03:40]** pissed me off so I have some good solid reasons for wanting to deal with this
**[01:03:50]** melody and it is spiritual nature I am incapable on my own I'm not resenting
**[01:03:57]** you because I need you to be what I need you to be and you will never be able
**[01:04:02]** to fulfill that role any of you alone or collectively you can't meet my needs
**[01:04:09]** I can't meet yours either not I'm all that's pretty serious melody in there we
**[01:04:23]** should have some real high drama method of taking care of that shit you know it
**[01:04:29]** would be fair be right what do we get to do with it we get to put it on paper you
**[01:04:37]** kidding me well there's a good reason for that I was in therapy when I was 19 and
**[01:04:47]** one of the things we did to help me overcome the anger I had toward my dad
**[01:04:51]** was to get a picture of him on a punching bag and then punch it so I could
**[01:04:55]** express the anger I don't know what the rest of them did with theirs but I loved
**[01:05:00]** it it didn't get rid of my anger it helped me get involved in it I don't
**[01:05:06]** respond well not as my body differ my whole makeup is different I must be
**[01:05:14]** very careful not to express anger because I hook up to it it's an energy
**[01:05:20]** source for me and I get to feeling it the next thing you know the bear comes
**[01:05:25]** out and I'm off and running I don't have time to stop at anger once I get a
**[01:05:34]** taste of it it's like alcohol I want some rage so I go straight to rage
**[01:05:40]** fears for sissies pay your 50 cents get on a roller coaster what's your pants
**[01:05:49]** go home that's what fears about me I like stark terror first thing in the
**[01:05:58]** morning nothing like it gets you out of bed and on the way to work the world is
**[01:06:06]** mine I have to be very careful with standard therapeutic techniques just
**[01:06:14]** don't seem to work on me now we borrowed a lot from therapy and there's
**[01:06:17]** nothing wrong with it I'm not trying to demean it but I'm suffering from a
**[01:06:23]** spiritual melody so psychological means are not going to be enough they may help
**[01:06:29]** me identify some things or become aware of some things but I can't treat my
**[01:06:35]** problem with my problem and my problem is in my mind I think it's my emotions
**[01:06:41]** it's not it's in my mind my emotions don't come to my mind says oh react and
**[01:06:49]** sometimes I'm busy being self-centered and I should be reacting with joy and I
**[01:06:56]** react with panic I've laughed at funerals and cried at hockey games doesn't make
**[01:07:05]** sense it's inappropriate the message goes out okay but it gets to the wrong
**[01:07:12]** place somehow I'm desperate to have Rashid like me and so he comes up and says
**[01:07:23]** how are you this morning and the message goes out Rashid likes me and it gets
**[01:07:29]** detoured to I wonder what he meant by that you do I suffer from a spiritual
**[01:07:41]** melody it must be just so I don't need high drama methods of dealing with this
**[01:07:47]** because I will just love them I'll get involved in them I'll get good at them
**[01:07:53]** three weeks after I came in to A they also put me into Sena Corps which is
**[01:08:02]** another method because it said drug addicts on the thing so they sent me
**[01:08:06]** well this is games therapy encounter therapy and after one meeting I
**[01:08:14]** realized I was in great danger because I liked it and I'd be running the group in
**[01:08:19]** six weeks because I am really good at encounter therapy you gotta remember
**[01:08:28]** I'm Zorro I've been fencing my entire life with the forces of evil by the way
**[01:08:41]** are you aware that Mexico's new president is named Fox that's Zorro
**[01:08:49]** wonderful he finally made it all the way to the top so we set them on paper
**[01:09:00]** and when I'm taking people through this we stop at this point first of all do we
**[01:09:07]** believe all this stuff have we done that yet is my basic question for working
**[01:09:14]** inventory we set them on paper have we done that yet no because we don't know
**[01:09:19]** how constantly understand I don't know how I may have done it yesterday but
**[01:09:27]** today I don't know how if this is truly the book that it purports to be
**[01:09:33]** they're going to show us precisely how to do it so let's read for a little bit
**[01:09:36]** and see if we get any directions why sure enough we list people institutions
**[01:09:43]** and principles with whom we were angry most new inventory I still don't have
**[01:09:47]** any principles on them because most new alcoholics would know a principle of
**[01:09:52]** it hit him in the face people institutions and principles not people places and
**[01:10:01]** things that's a really lovely little warp people institutions and principles
**[01:10:08]** who I'm angry easy list to make so I've been thinking about for the last 30
**[01:10:14]** years no trouble with that one and when I'm working with you go home now and when
**[01:10:27]** you're through with your list come back and when do you come back now we've
**[01:10:33]** had a regular appointment each week to this point and I keep being asked well
**[01:10:38]** when when shall we get together next just as soon as you're through with your
**[01:10:42]** list when will I know you'll know one name counts as a list if that's all you
**[01:10:53]** can get and that's truly all you can get as soon as you got that come back and
**[01:10:59]** we'll do something with it if you take you three weeks to do your list I probably
**[01:11:04]** will never see you again you'll take yourself out of the game you will how
**[01:11:11]** long to take to make a list even if you're one of those fanatics that hates
**[01:11:16]** everybody in the world just bring me a phone book okay I don't care we're
**[01:11:30]** involved in a spiritual activity just keep moving do something pick one right
**[01:11:38]** Fatima do something in most cases we found that it was our self-esteem
**[01:11:48]** pocketbooks ambitions personal relations including sex which it were
**[01:11:53]** hurt or threatened I was shown that in a found no better way if I am having
**[01:12:00]** difficulty it is always for one of those two reasons actually three reasons some
**[01:12:07]** aspect of self is either being hurt threatened or interfered with nothing
**[01:12:13]** else causes me any distress whatsoever if someone is interfering with your self
**[01:12:24]** interest I don't care if you're interfering with myself interest that's
**[01:12:30]** when I care if you mess with my family I'll kill you that's a different deal
**[01:12:35]** hurt or threatened I don't have to have any fancy psychological stuff I don't
**[01:12:45]** call it an extended third column please don't show me what it is I'm not even
**[01:12:54]** interested I have done some things between the third and the fourth column
**[01:13:01]** in some of my own personal inventories in order to clarify things but I try to
**[01:13:06]** keep it this simple I don't have to know why that threatens me it'll be
**[01:13:11]** there when I need it come out somewhere so I try to keep it simple I just know
**[01:13:16]** something either being hurt threatened or interfered with and mostly interfered
**[01:13:22]** with I don't mind being hurt anymore near as much as I dislike being
**[01:13:28]** interfered with the only thing you can threaten me with is if you're going to
**[01:13:35]** interfere with me anyway that becomes the big one don't get in my way you hear
**[01:13:44]** isn't that often but that's the bottom line we go into this inventory looking
**[01:13:51]** for a till of the hunt what I found was a little boy who what his pants a nasty
**[01:13:59]** little boy screaming and ranting and raving to get my own way and you're
**[01:14:03]** interfering I want to go outside but it's snowing I don't care I want to go
**[01:14:14]** outside we'll put on your coat I don't want to put on my coat get out of the
**[01:14:18]** damn door that's what's going on stupid silly little stuff I'm being hurt
**[01:14:26]** threatened or interfered with I've got something to share later by the way you'll
**[01:14:41]** see how stupid it gets at 32 years my nobility was named one of the we do have
**[01:14:57]** this image that that we would like to be able to maintain about ourselves that
**[01:15:01]** we're tough whether we're nobility and and so on so forth but this inventory
**[01:15:07]** process will will reveal perhaps a different truth you may find something
**[01:15:14]** different I am one of one of the things that appeared on my inventory one time
**[01:15:20]** was a school teacher had really embarrassed me and the deal was and got
**[01:15:28]** I hated to write this down because that man is gonna have to talk to somebody
**[01:15:31]** about what happened when I was about 13 years old in the seventh grade just
**[01:15:35]** starting the seventh grade yo-yos were very popular and on this big-time
**[01:15:41]** operator he was playing with yo-yo at the start of English class in the
**[01:15:44]** beginning of the seventh grade and I was about seven or eight I was were in the
**[01:15:49]** back of the rooms and some of the guys were real good with these and I wasn't
**[01:15:53]** but I was trying to become good and so we were back in the back of the room
**[01:15:57]** practicing in the bell rang and I vaguely recall hearing the door closed
**[01:16:02]** which means the teacher walked in and somehow out of that entire group of
**[01:16:08]** 13 year old boys in the back they're playing with yo-yos all of them except
**[01:16:13]** me got set down and had their stuff put away and I'm still standing there I
**[01:16:20]** told you I just a notch off of normal I'm not real bad but I'm just far enough
**[01:16:26]** to be bad and she said mr. Hawkins would you please bring that give that yo-yo
**[01:16:35]** to me in a heartbeat I tell you it really a heartbeat I thought lady if you want
**[01:16:46]** this yo-yo you got it and I federal expressed that sucker to her from the
**[01:16:50]** back of the room I mean in a heartbeat I went from embarrassed to absolute rage
**[01:16:58]** and it was a killing rage my name was a little offer I'd accomplished my
**[01:17:04]** purpose I'm at school I think you know when you write that stuff down in
**[01:17:17]** inventory what you'd like to I mean you'd like to write down any kind of stuff
**[01:17:21]** but that you want to go talk to your sponsor with it well I'm pissed off my
**[01:17:26]** school teacher because she threw me out of class for playing with yo-yo that
**[01:17:30]** isn't what I want to write down and I can give you a whole long list of crappy
**[01:17:35]** looking stuff like this it's all petty but it's my truth it's my truth I'm going
**[01:17:44]** to get to get rid of that truth once and for all because see today I can talk
**[01:17:50]** about that and it has no hold over me whatsoever it's just a story about a
**[01:17:56]** goofy little boy it just didn't have all the crackers you needed upstairs no big
**[01:18:03]** deal so the book at the bottom page 65 says we went back to our lives don't
**[01:18:16]** mention to you back to your life may mean one resentment maybe that's all you
**[01:18:20]** have right now that's all you have that's all you have you have more some people
**[01:18:29]** like they come to me and she's very there what does that mean go back to our
**[01:18:33]** lives that mean do I start when I was a little kid and come forward or do I
**[01:18:36]** start now and go back God I don't know I mean at 35 years old I was gonna be
**[01:18:45]** locked away in a net house for the rest of my life what do I know I know what
**[01:18:49]** I have had explained to me and I know what I've done it says we went back to
**[01:18:55]** our lives I know who I am pissed off at today and in 1989 I was pissed off at
**[01:19:03]** women so I put that down and then I got another one then I got another one and
**[01:19:08]** pretty soon my list began to grow and over the course of that I watched myself
**[01:19:14]** go back through my life I didn't consciously sit down and try to go
**[01:19:20]** back to my life I just found myself going back to my life I believe that was
**[01:19:25]** a way I was guided through this little process because as I seemed it seemed
**[01:19:30]** as though I want to cleared one out of the way then I could go back a little
**[01:19:33]** further to another again that doesn't make it the right way but the end result
**[01:19:38]** was I found my truth out of it all and we'll get more to that later just went
**[01:19:43]** back through our lives nothing counted but thrown us in honesty listen none of us
**[01:19:50]** I believe are really red hot about being thorough and honest now that just
**[01:19:58]** doesn't come quite naturally that I mean I want you to think I'm thorough and
**[01:20:02]** honest I want to cast an image of being thorough and honest but when we're on
**[01:20:08]** the front end of this the very first time that's not the way we think but let me
**[01:20:12]** tell you a little secret I knew somehow way down deep inside of me as a result of
**[01:20:18]** some of the prayer I'm convinced now that that's what it was then I had a
**[01:20:22]** chance here to get rid of all the stuff that had been troubling me for years
**[01:20:27]** and years and years and I'm not talking about big immoral crimes I mean I did an
**[01:20:32]** immoral inventory to I'm the kind of a guy who has to look up the book says a
**[01:20:37]** fairly interesting moral inventory ourselves what's a moral inventory
**[01:20:40]** well it's what's going on inside of me that you don't know about that's what a
**[01:20:45]** moral inventory and immoral inventors every time I stole something out here
**[01:20:48]** every time I ran a red light who cares what you need to know is what was going
**[01:20:54]** on inside of me that looks awful shabby when I lay it out here at least it looks
**[01:20:58]** shabby to me but I knew that I was going to be able to get rid of this stuff
**[01:21:03]** once and for all at least what I could come come to terms with now and so far
**[01:21:09]** as being reminded of the spirit what do you want me to know about me and I'm
**[01:21:13]** gonna do my part so I kept sitting down there writing this stuff just doing the
**[01:21:17]** best I could doing the best I could following the instructions as nearly as
**[01:21:21]** I could and there's a little line over on this next page the top of 66 it says
**[01:21:28]** to conclude that others were wrong was as far as most of us ever got and again
**[01:21:37]** I'll tell you how delusional I was by the way that's the word that I will use
**[01:21:42]** is delusional I hear the word denial you're in denial denial carries with it
**[01:21:50]** to me a connotation that you are consciously choosing not to remember the
**[01:21:56]** truth and I don't consciously choose to not remember the truth I suffer from a
**[01:22:03]** delusion the delusion is that on a swell fella and you should know that I am
**[01:22:11]** honest to a fault if you would have asked me 20 some odd years ago Jerry
**[01:22:19]** who's the most honest guy you know if my mother is a kid I started lying to her
**[01:22:23]** when I was three and a half and yet if she just said to me when I was seven or
**[01:22:26]** eight son who is the most honest man that you know I'd have looked at the top of
**[01:22:31]** my shoes scuffed my feet just a little and then very modestly said well me
**[01:22:38]** pathological I suffer from delusions I can't get to the truth on my own on my
**[01:22:47]** own I can't to conclude that others were wrong was as far as most of us ever got
**[01:22:53]** the usual outcome was that people continued to wrong us and we stayed
**[01:22:57]** sure now that's one element of psychic pain we stay sore at those folks but now
**[01:23:07]** let me tell you what happens if you hang around here long enough untreated
**[01:23:12]** sometimes it was remorse and then we were sore ourselves you will eventually get
**[01:23:18]** sore to sell and it'll look like this what in the hell is wrong with me Jesus
**[01:23:31]** what in the hell is wrong with me you'll come to a term I mean grips with that at
**[01:23:37]** some point down the road that there's something terribly wrong with you and we
**[01:23:41]** will be we will no longer be able to point the finger at somebody at someone
**[01:23:45]** else part of our mind still wants to do that but way down in a quiet recesses of
**[01:23:50]** our minds we don't we know that there's something terribly wrong with us I want
**[01:24:01]** to go on down just a little bit but the alcoholic whose hope is a maintenance and
**[01:24:05]** growth of a spiritual experience this business of resentment is infinitely
**[01:24:09]** grave Don was talking about this early says we found that it's fatal I want to
**[01:24:14]** bring to you an understanding that I've come to have as a result of walking
**[01:24:20]** this way for a while I always thought fatal they meant fatal as in physically
**[01:24:26]** fatal we die and I believe that eventually that's what it where we would
**[01:24:30]** get to but I tell you what there's something that's even more fatal as long
**[01:24:35]** as we hang on to this stuff and that is the spirit we all have experience those
**[01:24:43]** of us who are real alcoholics have all experienced that moment in our time of
**[01:24:48]** our life where we just began to retreat more and more and more from participation
**[01:24:54]** in the world out there the world became less and less interesting to us and we
**[01:24:58]** could no longer function we were in a combination of resentment and fear or
**[01:25:03]** rage and terror for many of us that's where it ended up and so that's what
**[01:25:10]** they're talking about we find that a resentment is infinitely fatal and it
**[01:25:16]** really is because it kills the spirit and if my spirits being killed I only have
**[01:25:20]** one thing that I know how to do left of my own devices and that is I want to
**[01:25:24]** kill yours to you know watch yourself any of you have kids many of us here have
**[01:25:31]** kids we've we've we've done our part to kill the spirit of a children
**[01:25:35]** family my son was about to 12 years old and and he was and he's a kid that he's
**[01:25:42]** he's a big kid physically he's big always always been big for his age and
**[01:25:46]** he's always been a big spirit I mean he just he could when he was 12 years old he
**[01:25:52]** could have walked in this room and within seconds you would have known that
**[01:25:54]** there was a different presence in this room because that's just the way he's
**[01:25:58]** always been and when he was 12 years old the start of the sixth grade I said
**[01:26:03]** to him as a kind of a fun little deal I said son's first day of school sixth
**[01:26:07]** grade your last year at grade school you want me to take you to school give you
**[01:26:10]** right and because children love the parents he said oh God yes that was a
**[01:26:15]** big deal to him and so I said to him okay well let's go and so he was running
**[01:26:22]** around the house trying to get ready to go and I was beginning to lean on him a
**[01:26:26]** bit because you see I had plans to get out of the house at a certain time if I
**[01:26:31]** were going to take him to school and I now understand I was self-employed and I
**[01:26:35]** didn't need to be at work whenever I got there whenever I got there but I'm
**[01:26:40]** saying well we need to go and he's still running around the house and he's not
**[01:26:44]** quite ready and I said for God's sake son what any help's going on he said I
**[01:26:47]** can't find my cap I said what cap are you talking about he said my big ox
**[01:26:51]** yellow and white cap and I said son if you think you're wearing that goddamn
**[01:26:55]** filthy hat to school you got another thing coming out either get in the car
**[01:26:59]** or you'll walk to school that's a nice way to talk to a 12 year old boy who's
**[01:27:03]** really excited about getting around school isn't it I said to him if you wear
**[01:27:08]** that hat by the way you need to know the history they had I gave it to him as a
**[01:27:11]** gift to 12 year old boy at the beginning of that summer he worked that
**[01:27:15]** whole summer we had a little farm in those days he'd wear it out the farm
**[01:27:18]** worked through the wheat harvest and it just looked like he got dropped behind a
**[01:27:22]** truck for about 250 miles and that's what little boys do with the caps they
**[01:27:27]** just look filthy and they love them that's what boys do I said you are not
**[01:27:34]** wearing that hat to school what in Christ name with a teacher think about
**[01:27:38]** you sometime later in an inventory so you kill the spirit and I knew instantly
**[01:27:46]** that I'd kill the spirit I know because of my own discomfort see I said to him
**[01:27:54]** the biggest lie of all what will a teacher think of you what I was really
**[01:27:59]** concerned with what's the teacher gonna think of me we can really create some
**[01:28:07]** confusion with our twisted thinking can we and the lies that come out of our
**[01:28:11]** mouth well the teacher think of you I'm not concerned about what the teacher
**[01:28:16]** thinks of him concerned about only me so we're to live we have to be free of
**[01:28:23]** anger the grouts in the brainstorm we're not for us our book says they may be the
**[01:28:34]** dubious luxury of normal men but for alcoholics these things are poison you
**[01:28:39]** know what I suppose normal people have resentment once a while but I don't
**[01:28:48]** think they last very long I've talked to normal people I had a guy who was a a
**[01:28:53]** contractor he used to come to me and and he was such a sweetheart because he'd
**[01:28:56]** hire alcoholics to kind of help us out and old Dave came to me one day and he
**[01:29:00]** said Jerry said I got to talk to you about this resentment stuff and I said
**[01:29:04]** what do you mean so well I think I have resentment I said okay so he said well
**[01:29:10]** you guys have them differently than I do I said what do you mean Dave when he
**[01:29:16]** said I usually after I have a resentment he said you know a day to me maybe three
**[01:29:23]** tops I kind of see where I was wrong and I forget about it he said I had one of
**[01:29:29]** your guys working for me and he brought up an incident that happened in 1973
**[01:29:34]** and this was 1996 yeah we we do look at our resentments a little differently I
**[01:29:46]** believe the most important part of this inventory process is not the right
**[01:30:00]** there's a mental and physical change that occurs between the third and fourth
**[01:30:07]** column and without it the fourth column is a lie and meaningless anyway I was
**[01:30:16]** told I could get a new mind and on this next page in a little bit it's what it
**[01:30:24]** looks like and sounds like and thinks like now having said that let me show you
**[01:30:30]** where I got that we've got this list now who am up whom angry with why I'm angry
**[01:30:37]** and what's being affected so we turn back to this list now we understand that
**[01:30:44]** holding on to this is gonna kill me I'm gonna go back to the list because it
**[01:30:50]** holds the key to the future I'm prepared we are prepared to look at it from an
**[01:30:56]** entirely different angle my book says look for it they had a lot a lot of fun
**[01:31:04]** in the young people's group some of us hadn't looked for it and some of had
**[01:31:08]** looked at it and we spent hours debating the merits of each of course it doesn't
**[01:31:16]** matter it was a typo it was a printers error I'll tell you how funny we are once
**[01:31:24]** the printers there was found GSO put it back where it was supposed to be cut all
**[01:31:29]** kinds of hell because they changed the big book we are funny I'm prepared to
**[01:31:38]** look at this list from an entirely different angle is that true I must ask
**[01:31:43]** am I really wanting to look at it differently because this will change my
**[01:31:47]** life we began to see